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    CKR unbalanced? What the heck is he talking about?

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    Post by rzukic Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:44 am

    Today while I was doing some research I stumbled upon this article by Steve Gamble where he talks about CKR and he ventures to say that CKR is unbalanced and therefore creates imbalance when used?? Here is the link

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    Post by Milarepa Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:18 am

    i was about to go to bed but needed a laugh. I dunno why he's talking bout gnostic stuff, re: the paragraph bout Christ. wht he says there is gnosticism, and what they say bout creation. which i personally but a lot of weight in, but dunno how he's linking it to Reiki.

    anyhow... he's saying symbols limit Reiki. which is rubish. 4 symbols are for specific things. and not so specific as one is for the feet, one for haemeroids, etc. One is for initiation, it's got no use other than that. one is to increse focus. on'es for absent healing initialy. th eothers for emotional psychological stuff. bloody heck, that's a very broad spectrum covered. and with the exception of dkm, the other three still enable Reiki to be used in different ways. and there's always the option of not using symbols in treatments, he's obviously forgot about that limiting technique! with the symbols for specific processes to cover, course some are limited, hehe. this doesn't limit Reiki though.

    what he says bout the other person doing the healing is fine. but what he's not saying is it's the trained practitioner, via their expertise of byosen, etc, that lets them know factly what symbol to use, and indeed of to use any. ther'es nothing wrong with intellect in Reiki, it's why we've got training, hehe!

    i'm gonna read this all out of morbid curiousity. the correlation betweeen what is the proper spinning of a chakra, and the spiral of ckr, and ckr being unbalanced cause of this, is crap. ckr, isn't related to chakras. then i'm surprised he didn't know this, since he knows the 'true origins of Reiki'.

    can't see the sense in the point that he's saying nature just is, and why all the different things like Karuna, seichim, etc. He's spoke of scientific stuff, so surely he knows an apple is energetically different form horse manure.

    i love the folks woh say everyones already attuned to this. that is, ahem, after they've recieved thier Reiki attunements themselves. it's all so easy. yet they couldn't do it beforehand.

    Reiki also isn't outside of ourselves. Takata sensei said it comes from within.

    the master calling. a master teaches. or like me, it's declaring Reiki is master of me. big deal. and then the articles goes on to talk bout folks saying they're gods. is this meant to be tied in with Reiki also? it's in that section. it's becoming farscical.

    i'm gonna contact these folks tomorrow when i wake up. cause this stuff's preposterous. wrote in such a way that it's Reiki bashing extradonaire, hehe. i'm trying to find out which orginal true style these guys belong to, that'd be interesting.

    thanks anyhow Resko, that's was funny!

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    Wayne

    Edit: God, i nearly swallowed my tongue. Gendai Reiki ho is where he gets the info from. Even though Gendai is a modern system even in name. and for sure it's founder was trained in western Reiki by Meiko Mitsui. the very system this author is putting down. i'm not gonna bother to contact them now, it's not important anymore. lol
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    Post by Lambs-Wool Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:17 pm

    Milarepa wrote:i was about to go to bed but needed a laugh.

    i do hatsueri before going to bed, thats why i always end up with dreams, serious dreams, instead of "sweet dreams" lol!

    i will follow you now ! Smile

    Wayne wrote:
    anyhow... he's saying symbols limit Reiki. which is rubish.

    i dont know if i m doing it legally right, but i feel the need to post the exact words of Steve Gamble here (source : http://www.equilibra.uk.com/shop1.shtml)

    Steve Gamble in his atricle Shopping for Truth wrote:
    Everything is energy and everything is made up of a variety of vibrations, either a single vibration for the very basic form of existence or as in the human body a multitude of vibrations. A symbol is no different in the way it is composed other than it is a fixed vibration. A symbol is a fixed energy. Now, irrespective of whether a symbol is balanced or unbalanced, positive or negative, good or bad, it always represents a fixed vibration. Therefore using symbols of any nature while channelling energy for the purpose of ‘healing’ is LIMITING the energies that can be channelled. By doing this we are limiting the energies to a fixed vibration. This is the intellect getting in the way again.

    to put my personal views in the discussion, i generally have an uncomfort in saying that everything is energy and that everything is composed of vibration... this definition might hold good for physics and slightly for meta-physics but might totally fail when we consider paranormal and spirituality...

    vibration is the essence of physical life, as science tells us, but might not so be the case of non-physical presence... if i can prove that 'spirit' is made up of atoms, i may consider that 'everything is energy/vibration'...

    Steve says that symbols are made up of vibration, rather of a fixed vibration as compared to 'multipilicity of vibrations' in other things... something to vibrate, must have a physical presence... for me, vibration is defined as 'to and fro' motion of something from points A to B, and from B to A back... for something to be at point A, or say at point B, at a particular frame of time, it has to have a physical presence, composed of atoms, maybe...

    symbols have any physical presence ??? it would be a wild thought to say that symbols physically exist.. they sure exist, but spiritually... the spiral drawn on a piece of paper with black ink is not symbol, it is white paper that has been tainted with black ink on certain spaces... physically it is still paper+ink, and no more... so how does a symbol exist? they exist spiritually, and non-physically... thus, to ascribe a vibrational model to symbols, or to say that symbols have a vibration, it is just skims over my head Smile

    Wayne wrote:
    4 symbols are for specific things. and not so specific as one is for the feet, one for haemeroids, etc. One is for initiation, it's got no use other than that. one is to increse focus. on'es for absent healing initialy. th eothers for emotional psychological stuff. bloody heck,

    if i have a hammer to put a nail in... this is a function of hammer, not its essence... hammer is composed of wood/plastic and steel.. these building blocs have specific attributes that have somehowe become 'latent' since when we think about hammer, we think about power to put the nail in... but the wood/plastic/steel, that is the essence of a hammer, have their intrinsic qualities, which are not limited to just nail in something...

    lets say, if CKR is for focus, it might be that essence of CKR is to generate reiki first of all

    if SHK is for harmony, it might be that essence of SHK is an 'embodied' spiritual guidance


    if HSZSN is for distant healing, it might be that essence of HSZSN is to uncover a true being through a ture thought

    if DKM is for initiations, it might be that the essence of DKM might be to shine like GOD


    since i didnt invent reiki, i can only speculate, and therefore i give a huge disclaimer over the things said above lol!


    what he says bout the other person doing the healing is fine. but what he's not saying is it's the trained practitioner, via their expertise of byosen, etc, that lets them know factly what symbol to use, and indeed of to use any. ther'es nothing wrong with intellect in Reiki, it's why we've got training, hehe!


    intellect is never bad Smile it gives outlines to the process of 'letting go', but the outlines are always dynamic, always expanding, not at all static....

    using HSZSN for power boost maybe something we can call 'intellectual endeavour' but using CKR for powe boost is just the matter of using the spiritual permission with which CKR comes forward for that purpose...

    if we have to, argument sake, minus all the instances of intellectual intervention from a reiki process then the best would be that turn off the lights, give a sedative to client (and take one ourselves too), turn on the reiki, and go to sleep! CKR unbalanced? What the heck is he talking about? 63216 since then it would be 'pure' reiki at work then!


    i'm gonna read this all out of morbid curiousity. the correlation betweeen what is the proper spinning of a chakra, and the spiral of ckr, and ckr being unbalanced cause of this, is crap. ckr, isn't related to chakras.

    if CKR has a formation with one straight vertical line ( as we have our vertebrel column) and spirals around it (like we have chakras (around ?) the spinal column), does this conincidence give us a conclusive proof that CKR represents that physiology ?? Smile

    it will be very very wide application of deduction logic Smile


    i love the folks woh say everyones already attuned to this. that is, ahem, after they've recieved thier Reiki attunements themselves. it's all so easy. yet they couldn't do it beforehand.

    initiation is a huge leap, by all means... it makes the path short by hundreds of hours of indigenous study, spiritual practice, discipline, development, etc.


    a 10 minute episode makes us healing practitioners, and we start doing reiki tricks that a non-reiki buddy will need 100 years of constant practice to exhibit.. that is so profound... if self-attunements were possible, why ever the word 'attunement' or 'initiation' would have come to surface ??


    Edit: God, i nearly swallowed my tongue. Gendai Reiki ho is where he gets the info from. Even though Gendai is a modern system even in name. and for sure it's founder was trained in western Reiki by Meiko Mitsui. the very system this author is putting down. i'm not gonna bother to contact them now, it's not important anymore. lol

    Steve speaks so loud about intellect and ego, and yet he tries to elevate the possibilities of humans (who are a creation of someone else) to God( the ultimate creator).. any hint, as this thought is also a playful trick of EGO too ??



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    Post by Milarepa Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:22 pm

    sure, good points.

    And if 100 years with the very symbol that most widely used is unblanced, it'd make 100 yerars of treatments unbalanced. folks wouldn't be getting better!

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