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    Post by vijaybali Sun May 31, 2009 2:47 am

    Dear friend,

    sex is postive for reiki or negative.
    can we left sex to become good healer.?


    my experienced i feel it is normal in both condition. or any technic where i can judge the effect of of both.

    but what is your personal experience, not bookish.

    waiting for you response
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    Post by Thaak Sun May 31, 2009 4:56 am

    My experience with Sex, is that it can be a great stress reliever.

    Also, if you follow various different tantric exercises, sex can actually help to enhance your access to various different energy flows. These exercises include breathing techniques and various different visualization techniques that culminate in what is explained as ultimate ecstasy beyond a typical orgasm.

    So my experience and opinion says that if experienced with the right intent, that sex can be healthy and conducive to good energy. As such, it only enhances Reiki.

    But, and here is the big caveat, Sex, often in the USA (and there are other countries even more closed-minded here), tends to be frowned upon. Sure, we have a huge pornography industry, and strippers and prostitutes can make a boat load of money. But generally, with the large fundamental Judeo-Christian foundation of this country, sex is not something to be openly discussed. Our children aren't told anything about sex, typically, and are often told that it is shameful. Especially mastubatory practices are shameful. So if you approach sex from a position of guilt or shame, then it most likely won't garner much or any of the positive benefits I mentioned above.
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    Post by Pandora Sun May 31, 2009 6:24 am

    From experience I found that reiking the bed helps with whatever happens in the bed!
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    Post by chi_solas Sun May 31, 2009 12:42 pm

    Pandora wrote:From experience I found that reiking the bed helps with whatever happens in the bed!

    That's an interesting tip sex is postive for reiki negative 158903
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    Post by thehungrycaterpillar Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:39 am

    Hats off to the brave souls for asking and for responding!!!




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    Post by chi_solas Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:45 am

    Thaak wrote:My experience with Sex, is that it can be a great stress reliever.

    Also, if you follow various different tantric exercises, sex can actually help to enhance your access to various different energy flows. These exercises include breathing techniques and various different visualization techniques that culminate in what is explained as ultimate ecstasy beyond a typical orgasm.

    So my experience and opinion says that if experienced with the right intent, that sex can be healthy and conducive to good energy. As such, it only enhances Reiki.

    But, and here is the big caveat, Sex, often in the USA (and there are other countries even more closed-minded here), tends to be frowned upon. Sure, we have a huge pornography industry, and strippers and prostitutes can make a boat load of money. But generally, with the large fundamental Judeo-Christian foundation of this country, sex is not something to be openly discussed. Our children aren't told anything about sex, typically, and are often told that it is shameful. Especially mastubatory practices are shameful. So if you approach sex from a position of guilt or shame, then it most likely won't garner much or any of the positive benefits I mentioned above.

    Andy is there anywhere in the world that sex is
    not looked on as shameful?

    When my children were growing up I did my best to
    present from an early age that sex was not shameful.

    I have checked out Reiki sex websites. I see them as
    glorified romanta therapy. Reiki is a positive energy
    that works from the crown to the root chakra moving
    blocked/stressed energies from the body. If anyone is
    having sexual problems I'd say Reiki has the power to
    bring about positive energy to the root chakra

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    Post by Thaak Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:31 pm

    chi_solas wrote:

    Andy is there anywhere in the world that sex is
    not looked on as shameful?

    When my children were growing up I did my best to
    present from an early age that sex was not shameful.

    I have checked out Reiki sex websites. I see them as
    glorified romanta therapy. Reiki is a positive energy
    that works from the crown to the root chakra moving
    blocked/stressed energies from the body. If anyone is
    having sexual problems I'd say Reiki has the power to
    bring about positive energy to the root chakra

    sunny

    Yes, although perhaps not entire countries or cultures. There are isolated societies where it is not considered taboo. I know that Europe has some countries that are fairly liberal when it comes to sexual expres​sion(France, Spain and Italy spring immediately to mind.)

    Tantric practices came from India, so while much of Muslim law appears to indicate sex is shameful, and I think (not sure) that Hindu law tends to look down on PDA (public displays of affection), there is at least one school of thought that originated in that country that does not look at sex shamefully, but rather as a source of power.
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    Post by Milarepa Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:32 pm

    Thaak wrote:

    Tantric practices came from India, so while much of Muslim law appears to indicate sex is shameful

    Islamic law has only real input with civil law in India, Smile .

    As a muslim convert, albeit not a practising one anymore, i can share what i've found re: Islam & sex. It's not a subject widely spoke about. Sex before marriage is a no-no. So is adultery. It's all to do with lust, which Islam see's as can lead to other things. The point is self-evident in our societies i feel.

    On the other hand, the Holy Qu'ran is very helpful in advising, in most beautiful ways, what way to treat your wife, even from that first encounter on the weeeding night. Such as praying to Allah at the start of every intercourse. As a person whom has a love of the divine, i can really appreciate the emphasis of God, in what is in effect, one of our most spiritual acts we can do with another.

    In fact, quite a lot of what's found in Islam is found in core Christian teachings also. This isn't surprising.

    I just wanted to expand on the point you raised, Smile . We gotta remember, what may be shameful to us, may be respectful to others. And no matter what some in the west may wish, other in this earth have equally valid alternate views. I'm not suggesting you were saying otherwise here, just a general comment. Smile .

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    Post by chi_solas Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:29 pm

    I have read that in primitave tribes in Africa
    not sure if that includes all tribes in Africa.
    That a young girl has to prove she can bear
    children before marriage.

    I'm sure that became taboo when the missionaries
    converted Africians to chrisianity, the same way
    they changed having to wear full garnments to cover
    the body.

    [quote][/Holy Qu'ran is very helpful in advising [quote]
    That is beautiful.
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    Post by Pandora Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:24 am

    Chi, it used to be the case in England that a marriage would only be finalised if the woman had become pregnant! It's not commonly known, in fact I've only uncovered it while researching family histories, but in agricultural England children were a necessity rather than a luxury - they were the ones who would keep you in your old age, assuming of course they survived that long.
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    Post by chi_solas Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:11 am

    Pandora wrote:Chi, it used to be the case in England that a marriage would only be finalised if the woman had become pregnant! It's not commonly known, in fact I've only uncovered it while researching family histories, but in agricultural England children were a necessity rather than a luxury - they were the ones who would keep you in your old age, assuming of course they survived that long.

    That's an interesting piece of history. Talk about
    being valued for the wrong reasons.Indentured slaves

    Does the government still pay weekly child benefits?
    I remember my parents collecting money for me and my
    other siblings.

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    Post by Pandora Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:41 am

    chi_solas wrote:
    Pandora wrote:Chi, it used to be the case in England that a marriage would only be finalised if the woman had become pregnant! It's not commonly known, in fact I've only uncovered it while researching family histories, but in agricultural England children were a necessity rather than a luxury - they were the ones who would keep you in your old age, assuming of course they survived that long.

    That's an interesting piece of history. Talk about
    being valued for the wrong reasons.Indentured slaves

    Does the government still pay weekly child benefits?
    I remember my parents collecting money for me and my
    other siblings.

    sunny

    Chi, I think you'll find that in most pre-modern societies the more children a couple can have the better - provide labour and comfort in one's old age. And I believe child benefit is still available, never having been a beneficiary nor a recipient of it myself.
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    Post by chi_solas Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:34 pm

    Pandora; I was the 2nd youngest of eleven.
    Sex was never mentioned in our home. I
    never saw underwear hanging out on the line. sex is postive for reiki negative 850837

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    Post by Pandora Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:10 am

    chi_solas wrote:Pandora; I was the 2nd youngest of eleven.
    Sex was never mentioned in our home. I
    never saw underwear hanging out on the line. sex is postive for reiki negative 850837

    sunny

    lol! The only talk about sex I had from my mother was the warning "not to bring any trouble home or you'll be put in a home"! I was an only child - the family joke was that my parents had been married 8 years, but when my mother's niece got married and had my cousin (once removed to be exact), my mom found out what to do, did it once and got me, and was so horrified by the entire experience that she never did it again!

    That was the effect the Victorians had on our society, I'm afraid. I got quite a shock when I started researching rural England and its morals!
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    Post by thehungrycaterpillar Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:50 am

    chi_solas wrote:Pandora; I was the 2nd youngest of eleven.
    Sex was never mentioned in our home. I
    never saw underwear hanging out on the line. sex is postive for reiki negative 850837

    sunny

    lol! The only talk about sex I had from my mother was the warning "not to bring any trouble home or you'll be put in a home"! I was an only child - the family joke was that my parents had been married 8 years, but when my mother's niece got married and had my cousin (once removed to be exact), my mom found out what to do, did it once and got me, and was so horrified by the entire experience that she never did it again!

    That was the effect the Victorians had on our society, I'm afraid. I got quite a shock when I started researching rural England and its morals!
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    OMG!!!!!!!
    That's Hilarious!!

    I didn't know what periods was until I got them, when I saw it, I started freaking out and crying... I thought I was dying of cancer!! Shocked Laughing
    My mom was grinning and chuckling and it made me very angry that she would be grinning while I was in the process of 'dying'!!

    Oh Jeez!
    I still did not know the mechanics of anything until I hit 12 grade.

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    Post by Thaak Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:13 am

    And we wonder why we still have problems in our country.

    I think that if our society wasn't so "ashamed" of sex, that we might actually talk about it maturely, and educate our youngsters as well.
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    Post by Thaak Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:26 am

    Thaak wrote:And we wonder why we still have problems in our country.

    I think that if our society wasn't so "ashamed" of sex, that we might actually talk about it maturely, and educate our youngsters as well.

    In no way was I saying that anyone here is a problem on our society.

    Was more referring to all the poor mothers who keep procreating or the teenage unplanned pregnancies that are largely based on ignorance rather than irresponsibility.

    I personally feel it is irresponsible for our religious leaders to teach abstanance without also educating the youngsters.
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    Post by Dragonfly Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:39 am

    Interesting discussion.

    In some spiritual practices, refraining from sexual activity is supposed to focus your energy on achieving enlightenment. And from what I know of Tantra, the effort at containing or delaying orgasm is supposed to also increase and appropriately direct energy.

    One of the benefits of Reiki is the interconnection of physical, emotional, mental and spiritual aspects. If we apply the same concepts to sex and integrate/interconnect them with sex, it can be a very uplifting, positive experience.
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    Post by thehungrycaterpillar Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:34 am

    I think that if our society wasn't so "ashamed" of sex, that we might actually talk about it maturely, and educate our youngsters as well.

    ....Was more referring to all the poor mothers who keep procreating or the teenage unplanned pregnancies that are largely based on ignorance rather than irresponsibility.

    I personally feel it is irresponsible for our religious leaders to teach abstanance without also educating the youngsters.


    I disagree actually,

    There are so many 'other' factors here that causes teenage pregnancy.. only a smaller percentage is because of ignorance.
    Kids these days have way too much easy exposure and a huge part is also be'cos lack of abstinence.

    I have 3 daughters ranging from 9 to 16 and I know when they got to know about sex and dating and other things that go with them. I talk to all of them too.

    They get plenty of sex education from school. But temptation is way too much + peer pressure etc,.

    Do you know that I have problems buying decent teenager clothes? There is so much cleavage issues or they are too short!

    I am not conservative, I am just a mom who is trying to keep their innocence for a while longer..

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    Post by Thaak Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:26 am

    thehungrycaterpillar wrote:
    I think that if our society wasn't so "ashamed" of sex, that we might actually talk about it maturely, and educate our youngsters as well.

    ....Was more referring to all the poor mothers who keep procreating or the teenage unplanned pregnancies that are largely based on ignorance rather than irresponsibility.

    I personally feel it is irresponsible for our religious leaders to teach abstanance without also educating the youngsters.


    I disagree actually,

    There are so many 'other' factors here that causes teenage pregnancy.. only a smaller percentage is because of ignorance.
    Kids these days have way too much easy exposure and a huge part is also be'cos lack of abstinence.

    I have 3 daughters ranging from 9 to 16 and I know when they got to know about sex and dating and other things that go with them. I talk to all of them too.

    They get plenty of sex education from school. But temptation is way too much + peer pressure etc,.

    Do you know that I have problems buying decent teenager clothes? There is so much cleavage issues or they are too short!

    I am not conservative, I am just a mom who is trying to keep their innocence for a while longer..

    tongue

    I am not a parent. I also don’t have any experience being the influential role model for a child. So I really am not speaking from experience at all. Rather a more idealistic viewpoint based on my own personal experiences as a child.

    Many of my thoughts also are derived from media reports and other types of editorials and blog posts.

    So take what I have to say with whatever credibility it deserves.

    But in my experience, I was not very close with my mother was I was growing up, and she was “ashamed” of sex I think, or at the very least she was very embarrassed to discuss it with me or my brother. Understandable of course. But additionally, she led a very sheltered life when she grew up because my grandfather was way overprotective and I don’t think grandma was very good at talking about that kind of thing either.

    So, there was I, an angry, sullen youth, who didn’t know up from down, my body was changing in ways I didn’t understand, and I tried to figure it out on my own. My mom, who was largely my instructional influence at the time, as she was a house wife, and my dad worked 10 to 14 hours a day. My dad did his best to spend time with us boys, but those times were usually camping trips, hikes in the woods, canoe trips, watching our sporting events, et. al. So as she gave the mien of being ashamed of sex, I did not feel secure talking to her about those things.

    I’m sure that if I was a bit more outgoing and more popular (less shy and absolutely petrified of talking to a girl, let alone asking one out) that I would have been a father in high school. Sad, but true.

    Now, if both mom and dad had been open about discussing sex with my brother and I, without us noticing their discomfort or embarrassment, then I’m sure I would have been much healthier as far as my sexual awareness went. I’m not blaming my parents, they did the best that they knew how, and had their own problems they had to deal with as well.

    So ideally, if we could engage our children in open discussions with liberal amounts of candor, and show that we, ourselves are not embarrassed by talking them about sex, then I think things would be better for their children. I am sure that at first, I would exhibit some embarrassment at this time as well though, although not being a parent I haven’t had to try.

    Additionally and more radically, it would be ideal if parents were willing to take their daughters to get birth control, and help their son’s and daughter’s buy condoms. With the understanding that they will probably experiment, and that as a parent you want them to be as safe as possible while doing so. Additionally if you educate the child on the emotional and spiritual aspects of sex, it would make that child’s decision much more informed. Even though, as informed as they may be, hormones often dictate actions at that age (hell, they can control my actions sometimes, and I’m 38!).

    I don’t know how it is today, and how it was for any of you, but my junior high school (both 7th and 8th grade) had a sex ed class that was about 2 weeks long. It was part of our health class. Parents had the right though, to opt their children out.

    Believe it or not, most of the girls who turned out children in high school, dropped out, or went to vocational school instead of high school, were those who were opted out. The other opt-out students were the girls that were unpopular and never dated in high school anyways.

    As a parent, why would you opt your child out of this type of education?
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    Post by thehungrycaterpillar Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:06 am

    I’m sure that if I was a bit more outgoing and more popular (less shy and absolutely petrified of talking to a girl, let alone asking one out) that I would have been a father in high school. Sad, but true.

    I am glad you didn't become a father in high school!
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    Now, if both mom and dad had been open about discussing sex with my brother and I, without us noticing their discomfort or embarrassment, then I’m sure I would have been much healthier as far as my sexual awareness went.


    Agewise, I am pretty close to you.
    'In those days', we'd be really lucky to have parents otherwise...
    What the heck, we turned out alright! Very Happy

    More than anything, issues like self esteem and the right and healthy about sex matters. That's what I focus on with my kids. I 'drop' opinions and 'little lessons' with my oldest.

    I do agree with you about being close to parents, atleast one of them. Close enough to discuss anything. I think I am pretty close to my kids, they keep me young and sane.
    I have to work at it though, it is not easy..

    Too close and risk losing being able to discipline? I have to watch it... cyclops
    But, they are my single most blessing!


    So ideally, if we could engage our children in open discussions with liberal amounts of candor, and show that we, ourselves are not embarrassed by talking them about sex, then I think things would be better for their children.


    It is enough if they know enough to understand basics at first. Then questions come up and when they are 'ready' answers are given as needed.
    Yes, as you say, that will be ideal. Then it is not even about sex discussion anymore, it's the emotional security that feels great, that they can talk about anything in the world.

    I am sure that at first, I would exhibit some embarrassment at this time as well though, although not being a parent I haven’t had to try.

    You are going to do beautifully!!! sunny
    cheers

    You already know what to do, you will figure out what words to use!!
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    Additionally and more radically, it would be ideal if parents were willing to take their daughters to get birth control, and help their son’s and daughter’s buy condoms.


    Personally, I won't do it yet. Ofcourse, when the time is right and you start seeing signs.. Nothing escapes a mother's eyes!!!
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    With the understanding that they will probably experiment, and that as a parent you want them to be as safe as possible while doing so.

    *GULP*

    Additionally if you educate the child on the emotional and spiritual aspects of sex, it would make that child’s decision much more informed.



    YES, YES!!
    I focus on self -esteem issues and self respect and have had a lot of discussions and arguments, hopefully something will stick in their heads...

    Even though, as informed as they may be, hormones often dictate actions at that age (hell, they can control my actions sometimes, and I’m 38!).

    Nah, Don't blame it on harmones, we all need to feel connected, loved and cherished, touched and held.
    It is basic human nature.
    There is nothing wrong with that. Adults can afford to make decisions that teen kids can't afford to...


    Parents had the right though, to opt their children out.

    Still the same and parents are allowed to opt out.
    But that would be a BAD choice or decision on the parent's part!!!!!!!!!!

    Believe it or not, most of the girls who turned out children in high school, dropped out, or went to vocational school instead of high school, were those who were opted out. The other opt-out students were the girls that were unpopular and never dated in high school anyways.

    Nope, dear Andy, they take the classes and get pregnant anyways. Not a lot of them, but some do. A whole lot of factors go into this.. You think Sarah Palin held her daughter back?


    As a parent, why would you opt your child out of this type of education?

    I AGREE!!

    Most of them don't! maybe some religious groups do...
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    Post by Thaak Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:17 am

    thehungrycaterpillar wrote:You think Sarah Palin held her daughter back?

    I'm sure she probably did actually. She's just enough of a nut-job right-wing conservative lunatic (note to self: Settle down Andy, judgment is not appropriate) to do something like that.
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    Post by thehungrycaterpillar Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:03 am

    Thaak wrote:
    thehungrycaterpillar wrote:You think Sarah Palin held her daughter back?

    I'm sure she probably did actually. She's just enough of a nut-job right-wing conservative lunatic (note to self: Settle down Andy, judgment is not appropriate) to do something like that.


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    Post by chi_solas Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:42 am

    Thaak wrote:
    thehungrycaterpillar wrote:You think Sarah Palin held her daughter back?

    I'm sure she probably did actually. She's just enough of a nut-job right-wing conservative lunatic (note to self: Settle down Andy, judgment is not appropriate) to do something like that.

    Young adults(teenagers)are inclined to feel that
    their parents are not in tune to young love and
    break the rules/curfew and so on.
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    Post by chi_solas Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:11 pm

    This is slightly off topic more subtopic.
    Why should girls subject themselves to
    taking pills to distort the natural rythmn
    of their bodies and possible side effects
    that cause ill health possible cancers.

    Boys don't take on the same pressure to avoid
    getting a girl pregnant.

    When children begin to ask curious questions
    about sex that they may have heard within ear
    shot from older kids at recess Basketball Parents
    should only answer the question asked and not go
    deeper than needed. Children do very well with
    small amounts of info. They will come back and
    ask for more.

    The reason some parents don't sign off on sex ED
    for their kids is because, they feel that giving
    the children info on using condoms/pills or under
    standing the body's reproductive function is like
    saying its OK to have "free" sex sex is postive for reiki negative 850837 before marriage.
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