What is Reiki?

Hi all,

In a similar vein as the 'concerning ULE..' topic..

If Reiki is ULFE/ULE, this of course is the same as prana, Qi,Ki, etc.

Could someone please tell me why then, we experience REIki?

How come it's not 'Ki', since that's the Japanese equivalent for ULE?

Thanks in advance, ,
Wayne

Milarepa wrote:How come it's not 'Ki', since that's the Japanese equivalent for ULE?

Is 'ki' the Japanese equivalent of ULE, though?



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What is meant by Ki?

Ki is an old japanese word which does not translate easily into english. It is used in many common Japanese idiomatic phrases where it conveys a meaning of spirit, energy, power, or air (gaseous). There is an old connection between spirit and breath (air) related to the Chinese word Chi (or Qi) and to the Hindu word Prana. This older meaning of Ki as being a term for the life force (breath) and natural power within us and within all things is how we use the term here.

Source: http://houstonkiaikido.org/whatKi.htm

Qi in English is often spelled as chi. The Japanese form is ki.

Qi is a fundamental concept of everyday Asian culture or philosophy, most often defined as "air" or "breath" and, by extension, "life force" or simply put, just "energy" that is part of everything that exists.

Source: http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/190




It seems to be James, the same concepts keep popping up, . It might help if someone defined ULE also, hehe. Maybe i should put a topic up about that, hehe.

take care
Wayne

[quote="Milarepa"]

What is meant by Ki?

that wasn't actually what I was getting at



Japanese equivalent for 'ULE':

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普遍的な 生命 エネルギー
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Note: you should see kanji and katakana characters between the lines. if you don't your PC probably hasn't got a Japanese Character set installed...
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Rlei_ki wrote:

Milarepa wrote:What is meant by Ki?

that wasn't actually what I was getting at

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you're close enough. i'm mr.elephant.

namaste,

ki or chi is similar to prana. in india when a person dies we say his prana has gone. ie the energy that made him survive has gone. so ki is the energy in the body that gives him life.

rei on the other hand is that spiritual energy which comes from above or from the soul and can be accessed through sadhana/methods as indicated by various gurus/teachers/guides. some or should i say very few access this energy directly like dr. usui did and devised a method for others to follow.

why do we say that the spiritual energy is from above us???is it because we look to god as someone in heaven,more powerful than mortals that we say up above rather then look inwards. i think that is a subject matter for a new discussion

renu

Yes renu, that's right looking up around and down does not help when talking about ULF. after all it is our life's breath that we breath in to stay alive. Formal Reiki does help give our breath a purpose to touch within ourselves, when we become aware of this dormant energy we can feel its energy in our heart/head/hands.
What is Reki energy gets lost in what is Reiki dogma.

chi_solas wrote:Yes renu, that's right looking up around and down does not help when talking about ULF. after all it is our life's breath that we breath in to stay alive....

you've just described, Qi, Ki, prana, etc, . We expereince REIki. Looking at the words, it seems in the Japanese language, we expereince something more than Ki.

chi_solas wrote:
What is Reki energy gets lost in what is Reiki dogma.

Yes, this is true. And the question gets bogged down in largely irrelevant stuff, .

take care
Wayne

Milarepa wrote:Hi all,

In a similar vein as the 'concerning ULE..' topic..

If Reiki is ULFE/ULE, this of course is the same as prana, Qi,Ki, etc.

Could someone please tell me why then, we experience REIki?

How come it's not 'Ki', since that's the Japanese equivalent for ULE?

Thanks in advance, ,
Wayne

Maybe to distinguish it from the sort of ki used by a karateka? That's my best guess at this time.

Bruce

Bruce wrote:

Milarepa wrote:Hi all,

In a similar vein as the 'concerning ULE..' topic..

If Reiki is ULFE/ULE, this of course is the same as prana, Qi,Ki, etc.

Could someone please tell me why then, we experience REIki?

How come it's not 'Ki', since that's the Japanese equivalent for ULE?

Thanks in advance, ,
Wayne

Maybe to distinguish it from the sort of ki used by a karateka? That's my best guess at this time.

Bruce

Hi Bruce,
Is the Ki used by Karateka not the basic element of spiritual power? If Ki is that force which binds all life, in fact, energy of life, it seems maybe, and i'm thinking out loud here, Ki, was somehow erm, a pre-cursor to Reiki? Or, putting it a better way, Reiki is more refined than Ki?

I'd be real interested in your feedback on this. Also, as you're very familiar with Qigong, do you feel, sense, or expereince a difference with Qi, as in Qigong, on the one hand, and Reiki on the other?

Take care
Wayne

Milarepa wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Milarepa wrote:Hi all,

In a similar vein as the 'concerning ULE..' topic..

If Reiki is ULFE/ULE, this of course is the same as prana, Qi,Ki, etc.

Could someone please tell me why then, we experience REIki?

How come it's not 'Ki', since that's the Japanese equivalent for ULE?

Thanks in advance, ,
Wayne

Maybe to distinguish it from the sort of ki used by a karateka? That's my best guess at this time.

Bruce

Hi Bruce,
Is the Ki used by Karateka not the basic element of spiritual power? If Ki is that force which binds all life, in fact, energy of life, it seems maybe, and i'm thinking out loud here, Ki, was somehow erm, a pre-cursor to Reiki? Or, putting it a better way, Reiki is more refined than Ki?

I'd be real interested in your feedback on this. Also, as you're very familiar with Qigong, do you feel, sense, or expereince a difference with Qi, as in Qigong, on the one hand, and Reiki on the other?

Take care
Wayne

I'd be interested in Bruce's answer to this question, too, as I, too, practice qigong and Reiki both, and I experience reiki and qi/ki differently. Or at least, that's been my experience so far, and maybe it's just a matter of not knowing to what the labels apply and don't apply. Alex from AHR sees energy and sees reiki as something different from qi/ki, which he refers to as bio-energy. He says the better Reiki practitioners have learned to filter out the bioenergy component so as to work only with reiki when doing healing. Hopefully Buck is following this thread and will correct me if I have misstated, and will offer his own viewpoint, since, he, too, sees energy.

Also, I don't know how accurate this is, as I had never heard of it until it came out in _The Spirit of Reiki_ by Luebeck, Petter and Rand, but they claimed that there are 7(?!) varieties of ki, 1) kekki, 2) shioke, 3) mizuke, 4) kuki, 5) denki, 6) jiki, and 7) reiki. "The form of Ki that organizes the correct synergistic application of all the subordinate forms of the life force in the holistic sense is called Reiki." - _The Spirit of Reiki_, pg 59.

Can anyone confirm or debunk this?

Love and Light,

Garry

Milarepa wrote:
Hi Bruce,
Is the Ki used by Karateka not the basic element of spiritual power?

Hi, Wayne,

I think the ki/qi used in the martial arts is mostly a matter of body mechanics and alignment with some augmentation by the use of the breath.

If Ki is that force which binds all life, in fact, energy of life,

Energy of life is one sense of ki/qi. But don't go overboard w/ that. E.g., the Chinese word "tianqi" literally means "heaven qi," but in usage just means the weather. If you talk about the weather as some sort of life energy, you'll probably get some strange looks.

it seems maybe, and i'm thinking out loud here, Ki, was somehow erm, a pre-cursor to Reiki?

If you mean that ki is somehow changed into reiki, then I don't know. So far, I don't have any reason to believe that.

Or, putting it a better way, Reiki is more refined than Ki?

It looks and feels different to me. See comments below.

I'd be real interested in your feedback on this. Also, as you're very familiar with Qigong, do you feel, sense, or expereince a difference with Qi, as in Qigong, on the one hand, and Reiki on the other?

They're different, at least in my experience of them. When I do reiki practice, it feels somewhat higher-frequency -- in the literal sense of frequency, which appears on another thread -- than qi in qigong practice or qi healing. Someone who's my qigong student noticed the same thing the first time I emitted reiki onto her hand, although I hadn't mentioned the difference in frequency to her. Reiki isn't associated with as much sheer heat as yang qi, but it's not cooling like yin qi. (On the other hand, when I've been the recipient of reiki hands-on treatment, it's usually felt hot.)

When I look at qigong energies, I see yang qi as clear or yellow, and yin qi as dark blue. I usually see reiki as gold (with a sparkling sort of appearance that yang qi doesn't have), but sometimes as violet.

Bruce

namaste,
bruce, like you i see reiki as golden drops in a white haze like the milky way, sometimes i see it as colours of the rainbow with relation to certain chakras not functioning properly.

but one thing is strange, maybe my teacher passed on her ability of pranic healing to me, because sometimes i can feel the bubbles, currents, waves leaving my feet,instead of the tingling sensation only in case the receipent is not able to feel anything ( sometimes i een feel a part of their pain, maybe i get too conected)

renu

Bruce wrote:

It looks and feels different to me. See comments below.

Why do you think this is?

take care
Wayne

Milarepa wrote:

Bruce wrote:

It looks and feels different to me. See comments below.

Why do you think this is?

take care
Wayne

I think they're somewhat different energies. (Does that mean I agree with you?) I don't have any rigorous proof for that, though.

Bruce

Bruce wrote:

Milarepa wrote:

Bruce wrote:

It looks and feels different to me. See comments below.

Why do you think this is?

take care
Wayne

I think they're somewhat different energies. (Does that mean I agree with you?) I don't have any rigorous proof for that, though.

Bruce

well, hehe, i'm not gonna ask to you talk with me about 'different energies', i'd be way over my head, with your physics backgroud!

FWIW, i do feel that Reiki is definitely different from say Quantum touch (in what is expereinced), and in my limited expereince of Qigong, i'm assuming it's the same kinda thing utilized in both (?).

Take care
Wayne