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    Post by Thaak on Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:48 am

    I've used the terms a few times, and based on the responses I've gotten (including an actual request for explanation) I'm not sure that people know what I'm referring to when I use these words.

    Essentially, if we all have that special something, call it divine spark, ULFE, DKM, God, Allah, Jehovah, Yaweh, Creator, Goddess, Spirit, Universe, et. al., it usually is defined as all pervading. Something that is not just in everything, but is everything. Everything is it. This is a common concept in many religions and philosophies around the world. Even physicists are trying to find the "God" particle in CERN, Switzerland.

    Even if you don't want to look at it spiritually, but scientifically, quantum science will tell you that everything is some frequency of energy. Matter is just a very low frequency (or condensed version of) energy. Yeah, that's very dumbed down by a lay-man who doesn't know much about how actual quantum science is defined. But that is how it was once explained to me.

    But as such, if spiritually you believe that everything is part of a greater pattern, and that greater pattern is part of everything, then that means we each are Divine in our own right, just as the Divine is each of us. Scientifically, replace the word Divine with energy.

    Where Religion went wrong, was when they separated themselves from their "God(s)" and/or "Goddess(es)" and made people believe that they were flawed in some way.

    In the modern world, we believe we are separate from one another. Separate from "That-Which-Created."

    It is separation consciousness that creates conflict. This is duality consciousness.

    This applies to Reiki when you believe that the Symbols, the System, the Teacher, the Energy, is greater than you or is separate from you.

    Wayne (sorry bro, don't mean to specifically call you out, but I need you for two examples) makes many comments that on the surface are purporting duality rather than singularity.

    Then he goes and says things like, Reiki is just our Divine Spark helping our Client's Divine Spark to heal. Yeah, bad paraphrasing I know, but the gist is there. When you practice Namaste, which means "The Divine Spark in Me Recognizes the Divine Spark in You", during Reiki, you are essentially practicing Munay (a Q'ero term for dissolving the "I" into "ONE".) It is a state of innocence without egoic judgment or attachment.

    Practicing in removing myself from Duality or Separation consciousness is why I find it very hard to meditate on symbols anymore. Because in doing so, I'm recognizing that there is something beyond me that I don't have that I need.

    If one can study symbols without being in separation consciousness, that is beautiful, however.

    EDIT: I wanted to add this as well. In my class the other night, my teacher defined separation consciousness as form. Consensual reality and our physical bodies is form. When you seek to reach Munay (one with all that is and dissolving the “I” into “ONE”) you do away with thought. Thought creates form.
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    Re: Duality or Separation Consciousness

    Post by Pandora on Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:05 am

    Indeed, Andy. This is a very Buddhist perspective, and one which I've been discussing with my spiritual healing mentor recently - I'm doing the mentoring in this discussion!

    And as it's a Buddhist perspective... and we're talking about Reiki...

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    Re: Duality or Separation Consciousness

    Post by Milarepa on Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:56 am

    Thaak wrote:

    Wayne (sorry bro, don't mean to specifically call you out, but I need you for two examples) makes many comments that on the surface are purporting duality rather than singularity.


    Damn you! Hehe, Smile. Hey, i think i've possibly broke my finger today. Was doing promotional self-defence videos, and idiot-boy didn't do breakfall properly, now my finger is messed up. Hospital in morning, anyhow, reason i say is that i can hardly type, so take it easy on me here!

    Ok, Smile. In spirituality, there's a dilemma sometimes. What one see's in others, it's actually a reflection of them. And, the more 'advanced' one thinks one is, or, they're making, the less they actually are. THe one's that think they're getting nowhere, are sometimes the one's whom are progressing.

    So, thanks for pointing out for me, hehe.

    Thaak wrote:
    This applies to Reiki when you believe that the Symbols, the System, the Teacher, the Energy, is greater than you or is separate from you.

    Is this an exmaple of me? As you mentioned me next sentence. I already told you plainly a night or two ago, i don't think this. ANd i explained why. It's part of the teachings i've been having for a couple years, that i know the above qwuote isn't true.

    Explain please? Smile .


    Anyhow, Yeah, i try to stay firmly grounded. Whilst i'm living this human life, i try to absorb it as much as possible. I'm here to do that. If i wanna be in a spiritual realm, i'll go kill myself, and leave this reality, hehe.

    what i'm gonna say squarely to you Andy, is, when i see someone saying to another bout them experiencing 'duality-consciousness', i think, for pete's sake, course he does! He's ALIVE, isn't he? every person on this planet experiences duality consciusness in some form.

    Take care
    wayne

    Edit: Btw, bro. At the risk of me sounding a complete moron, many of us have explored the interconnectedness of everything, going into quanutm physics also. We've also discussed, and it was brilliantly put by James...




    takling form that, it's how we distinguish from giving someone an excellant Reiki session, or pouring gas on them and setting them on fire. Since all is energy, since all is one.

    We distinguish things in certain ways in this reality, it's outta neccesity. Duality consciousness, by it's own definition, is awareness of two distinct things. Welcome to life!


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    Re: Duality or Separation Consciousness

    Post by Thaak on Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:08 pm

    Milarepa wrote:

    Thaak wrote:
    This applies to Reiki when you believe that the Symbols, the System, the Teacher, the Energy, is greater than you or is separate from you.

    Is this an exmaple of me? As you mentioned me next sentence. I already told you plainly a night or two ago, i don't think this. ANd i explained why. It's part of the teachings i've been having for a couple years, that i know the above qwuote isn't true.

    Explain please? Smile .



    See, that's my conundrum when I read what you write sometimes. On one hand, we both agree so strongly in reaching a state of Munay, at least while facilitating a Reiki session, if not striving to reach to live that way in life as a whole. But on the other, you are so adamant about arguing about getting the form, the system, the rules exactly right. Kinda a paradox to me.

    However, in my last Monday night class, my teacher did indicate that there is no perfect human being. She thinks it would be boring to be perfect. And even those who are very good at living in Munay, will at times jump down and gossip with coworkers and judge someone, et. al. The key is, not to judge yourself, and when you retain that state of Munay, have enjoyed your slumming for awhile...

    That really got to me.
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    Re: Duality or Separation Consciousness

    Post by Milarepa on Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:14 pm

    Thaak wrote:

    See, that's my conundrum when I read what you write sometimes. On one hand, we both agree so strongly in reaching a state of Munay, at least while facilitating a Reiki session, if not striving to reach to live that way in life as a whole. But on the other, you are so adamant about arguing about getting the form, the system, the rules exactly right. Kinda a paradox to me.

    Maybe, hehe, the 'form,system, rules', are only to be got right, imo, if i'm telling the world i teach Usui Shiki Ryoho. If i;m saying it's Usui Sensei's system, then i should teach his system.

    If i taught Jikiden, and included chakras, it wouldn't be Jikiden. And i would bne asked not to cal it that. Or, legally made.

    I'm very conscious of the tradition that if the system is changed, so should the name in Japan. Heck, even john gray done it, and he introduced the bleeding chakras! Lol.

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    Re: Duality or Separation Consciousness

    Post by Reikijim on Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:16 pm

    Thaak wrote:I've used the terms a few times, and based on the responses I've gotten (including an actual request for explanation) I'm not sure that people know what I'm referring to when I use these words.

    I remember asking you to write this...

    Since my involvement in a life more spiritual. The things you speak of here have been very clear to me, Not an idea...certainly a reality. But as with all things, to know another`s perception of a term, is always an opportunity to learn more for self. Oneness...i believe.... Being a small part of a greater divinity.....I have adopted as my truth, a few years ago....

    I`m amazed to read your words and to realize that we believe almost exactly the same things...very wonderful indeed.

    If I live a totally spiritual life style, I live the reality of oneness. If I do not live a totally spiritual life style...I still know the reality of oneness, but I am separate from it in that time...At least, that is how i have interpreted the experience. Once a person has been in the reality of oneness, and separated from it, the longing to return is relentless...this is my present reality...the clock is ticking.


    Thaak wrote:
    Essentially, if we all have that special something, call it divine spark, ULFE, DKM, God, Allah, Jehovah, Yaweh, Creator, Goddess, Spirit, Universe, et. al., it usually is defined as all pervading. Something that is not just in everything, but is everything. Everything is it. This is a common concept in many religions and philosophies around the world. Even physicists are trying to find the "God" particle in CERN, Switzerland.

    Even if you don't want to look at it spiritually, but scientifically, quantum science will tell you that everything is some frequency of energy. Matter is just a very low frequency (or condensed version of) energy. Yeah, that's very dumbed down by a lay-man who doesn't know much about how actual quantum science is defined. But that is how it was once explained to me.

    I`ve always felt that when we perceive energy as solid matter, it points out a limitation, or possibly a "hard wiring" perspective of our physiology. My experience has been, my personal experience that is...that my attunements and meditations, and my ability to let go, and experience, instead of clinging to the opinions of others/science, out of fear or insecurity, has allowed me to, in affect, change my perceptions of the universe around me. For example watching a wooden wall flow like liquid...watching the sun melt into Lake Huron...seeing an energy pattern around a street light that encompasses 30 to 40 feet. these things are very amazing to experience. But what i find more amazing is....Why the commonality of the experience we share as a species...that makes me chuckle...why...


    Thaak wrote:
    But as such, if spiritually you believe that everything is part of a greater pattern, and that greater pattern is part of everything, then that means we each are Divine in our own right, just as the Divine is each of us. Scientifically, replace the word Divine with energy.

    Where Religion went wrong, was when they separated themselves from their "God(s)" and/or "Goddess(es)" and made people believe that they were flawed in some way.

    In the modern world, we believe we are separate from one another. Separate from "That-Which-Created."

    It is separation consciousness that creates conflict. This is duality consciousness.

    This applies to Reiki when you believe that the Symbols, the System, the Teacher, the Energy, is greater than you or is separate from you.

    Ok...I understand what you are saying but in my mind it`s a different relationship.

    I am not separate from a specific symbol. As i am not separate from a specific energy...yet I need the symbol to identify a part/band of energy for a specific purpose. Simply...I need an identifier to harness the knowing. And i guess this in itself causes a form of separation....How deep can we go here?

    I see all as one infinite energy, that my mind really cannot comprehend, so i struggle with word and ideas to come as close as i can, to an understanding. In Reiki, the best explanation I have, is that I may be focusing on a specific energy, in the infinite, to accomplish something. I identify this band through a symbol. I`m not sure that this act becomes a duality, but half my brain is saying it has to...What`s one to do with that...? Can we be one, and separate ? I think we can, as I cannot see another possibility. What do you think? If we are of energy and surrounded by energy only, why could we not?...and is duality in this theory, a limitation? I would not see it as such ...it just is...Ok someone please get a net to capture me before i float away...lol


    Thaak wrote:
    Wayne (sorry bro, don't mean to specifically call you out, but I need you for two examples) makes many comments that on the surface are purporting duality rather than singularity.

    Then he goes and says things like, Reiki is just our Divine Spark helping our Client's Divine Spark to heal. Yeah, bad paraphrasing I know, but the gist is there. When you practice Namaste, which means "The Divine Spark in Me Recognizes the Divine Spark in You", during Reiki, you are essentially practicing Munay (a Q'ero term for dissolving the "I" into "ONE".) It is a state of innocence without egoic judgment or attachment.

    Practicing in removing myself from Duality or Separation consciousness is why I find it very hard to meditate on symbols anymore. Because in doing so, I'm recognizing that there is something beyond me that I don't have that I need.

    If one can study symbols without being in separation consciousness, that is beautiful, however.

    EDIT: I wanted to add this as well. In my class the other night, my teacher defined separation consciousness as form. Consensual reality and our physical bodies is form. When you seek to reach Munay (one with all that is and dissolving the “I” into “ONE”) you do away with thought. Thought creates form.

    I would really like to hear your thoughts regarding my thoughts Thaak...and thank you for taking the time to write this...much peace



    Smile RJ


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    Re: Duality or Separation Consciousness

    Post by Reikijim on Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:34 pm

    Pandora wrote:Indeed, Andy. This is a very Buddhist perspective, and one which I've been discussing with my spiritual healing mentor recently - I'm doing the mentoring in this discussion!

    And as it's a Buddhist perspective... and we're talking about Reiki...

    affraid

    Hi Pandora,

    If everything is energy in various densities, does separation exist or it it illusion created by the limitations of our mind ? Maybe Buddhist`s are just enlightened in these areas, more advanced, because they are somewhat less restricted in their teachings? I wonder...

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    Re: Duality or Separation Consciousness

    Post by Pandora on Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:16 pm

    Well here we're getting into philosophy. Does anything exist unless we have created it in our mind?
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    Re: Duality or Separation Consciousness

    Post by Milarepa on Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:32 pm

    Do you beleive dinosaurs existed? Or trees & vegitation, before even the earliest forms of humanoid?

    If so, then yes, things can exist independant of a humans' mind. Smile .

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    Re: Duality or Separation Consciousness

    Post by Pandora on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:59 pm

    Milarepa wrote:Do you beleive dinosaurs existed? Or trees & vegitation, before even the earliest forms of humanoid?

    If so, then yes, things can exist independant of a humans' mind. Smile .

    Take care
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    Post by Milarepa on Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:39 pm

    yeah, but what do you think about the questions i asked you? Smile


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    Re: Duality or Separation Consciousness

    Post by Pandora on Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:30 am

    I think that greater minds than mine have given much thought to this...

    and there is a very real sense in which we create our own reality.

    Paulo Freire, who was a Brazilian educator, once said "we are subjects who change the world, not objects to be acted upon".
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    Re: Duality or Separation Consciousness

    Post by Milarepa on Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:53 am

    Pandora wrote:I think that greater minds than mine have given much thought to this...

    I value you're opinion also Chris, Smile.


    For sure, our consciousness as individuals, and also collectively, do shape reality. There's still a question with all this. If we do shape reality, how could we have shaped reality before humans came into being.

    If we look at the middle ages. When everyone thought the world was flat. Was it really flat then? And then one day it started to curve?

    And, the earth really was the centre of the universe at one time with everything moving around it? And this also changed?


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    Re: Duality or Separation Consciousness

    Post by Reikijim on Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:43 am

    Pandora wrote:I think that greater minds than mine have given much thought to this...

    and there is a very real sense in which we create our own reality.

    Paulo Freire, who was a Brazilian educator, once said "we are subjects who change the world, not objects to be acted upon".


    Hi Pandora,


    Can we not be both? Sometimes events happen that we have no say in. As we share experiences with others, how can a statement such as the one you`ve quoted, always be valid...I do understand the ability to create ones reality...But as of yet, I cannot see that I`m in total control of all I witness.

    Smile RJ
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    Re: Duality or Separation Consciousness

    Post by Pandora on Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:13 pm

    Reikijim wrote:
    Pandora wrote:I think that greater minds than mine have given much thought to this...

    and there is a very real sense in which we create our own reality.

    Paulo Freire, who was a Brazilian educator, once said "we are subjects who change the world, not objects to be acted upon".


    Hi Pandora,


    Can we not be both? Sometimes events happen that we have no say in. As we share experiences with others, how can a statement such as the one you`ve quoted, always be valid...I do understand the ability to create ones reality...But as of yet, I cannot see that I`m in total control of all I witness.

    Smile RJ

    Well OK we may not be incontrol when an earthquake or a tsunami happens! But let me give you a teaching story.

    A man threw a party for his neighbours. During the party, one neighbour came up to him and told him she was moving house, but that she was worried that the neighbours wouldn't be very nice - not like they are here, she said. "Oh don't worry," he replied. "I'm sure you'll find them exactly the same as they are here!".

    Another neighbour came up to him, introduced himself, and told him he was new here, but he was worried because he'd had to leave his last house because his neighbours were so horrid to him, and didn't know whether his neighbours here would be nasty too. "Oh dear," he replied. "I'm sure you'll find them exactly the same as they were there!".

    The moral of the story is: wherever you go, there you are. The way you behave governs the way others behave. It's a basic thought in teaching self-defence to women: we teach that aggressors will seek out their victims by they way they behave.

    It's a difficult concept for me, dealing with the abuse I suffered as a child. But I can see now how my behaviour must have thoroughly irritated my father, who was trying to deal with his own issues, and my behaviour may well have contributed to his reactions.

    A complex subject indeed.
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    Post by Milarepa on Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:28 pm

    Pandora wrote:
    It's a difficult concept for me, dealing with the abuse I suffered as a child. But I can see now how my behaviour must have thoroughly irritated my father, who was trying to deal with his own issues, and my behaviour may well have contributed to his reactions.


    Don't blame yourself Chris. Everyone is responsible for their own actions, Smile.

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    Post by Reikijim on Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:52 pm

    Pandora wrote:
    It's a difficult concept for me, dealing with the abuse I suffered as a child. But I can see now how my behaviour must have thoroughly irritated my father, who was trying to deal with his own issues, and my behaviour may well have contributed to his reactions.

    A complex subject indeed.


    Or not....

    Children are granted special considerations based on the fact that they have limited life experience. Children cannot be expected to know, when a parent is tired, at the end of his or her, respective rope. Children have never had the experience of the responsibilities of adulthood, so cannot be expected to comprehend adulthood`s tiring and trying circumstances. Children are busy,busy,busy learning, growing and experiencing themselves. By adult standards...they are self-involved, unaware...they cannot be anything else...This absolves them from the responsibility of which you speak.

    Nothing we do, as children, can make us responsible for the actions of an abusive parent. The parent`s own limitations are the sole proponent of the abuse. Our parents are to teach us, correct us through example, when we make mistakes, or be there when we need guidance. Abuse only teaches us to become perpetual victims, abuse others, or ourselves, mentally and physically.


    I come from a similar background, as do many others who never speak of it. The abuse i experienced would be considered mild by many standards. Yet one has to consider the attributes of the child to determine the extent of affect. I spent a couple of decades escaping self-views based in, and taught to me by my parents...a common story. I`m analytical by nature, and thank God for that, as I would have never been able to see myself, and help myself to escape the labels that were pasted on me, by them. Parents can, say nasty things to us, we believe it, absorb it, and sometimes become what they envision us as. Look around you....so very many people are caught in this trap....

    Before anyone assumes anything...I have much compassion for my parents. My mom is one of my best friends, my dad is on the other side. R.I.P.


    Reiki...lets talk about Reiki in this mix...Let`s talk about developing a state of mind, which allows us the ability to see our inner essence, who we really could be, our best scenario...true to our nature...not a societal projection, or an influence, crated by a mentor/parent. Lets talk about self love, compassion for one`s own flaws...
    To me, the healing that Reiki permits us to accomplish almost always starts here in these ideas/words. I see lots of people here talking about what Reiki energy is...what ULFE is, and the differences in each, and what they can do. What happened to the concept that "the body/mind/spirit,(with the help of spirit) can heal it`s self" At his point in my understanding, I believe, Reiki attempts to put a person in a state of perception that will allow a person, to be in touch with themselves, in ways, and on levels, that can allow this/healing/self-realization, to happen.

    Wayne talks about the "divine spark". I believe Reiki may be an element of this, yet those two words are not enough to encompass Reiki`s complexities. What are the Reiki energies? At this point in my life I have no idea...but it is a wonderful thing to consider, and it`s wonderful to hear and converse with others about the possibilities. I look forward to leaning through others about this.

    I`ve never been in psychotherapy, I`ve never read psychology books. I have looked at myself, through objectivity and found things to work on/things to work with....that`s the mental part of healing in my experience/self-realization...yet that`s not enough...

    Reiki, allowed me to view...my spiritual nature, my little piece, of perfection...

    When people say Reiki is love, some laugh, yet I laugh at them, as there can be a huge element of compassion and peace contained in the experience of knowing ones divinity/essence...Reiki allows that connection...at least it did with me...very enlightening/healing..

    Books are great....other peoples ideas, very good, never can have too much info. These tools have certainly helped countless people.

    Life experience, contemplation of ones true nature, meditation, COMPASSION...this is what`s worked for me.

    What are the last two lines in the Reiki precepts really saying?

    I think they say..."work honestly"...to me this means connect with yourself and find your true nature. If you know yourself you will not find yourself in places that do not serve your true nature....could be a mantra for happiness...lol

    "Be kind to everyone/every living thing", and many other interpretations...please save me from the many different versions...goodness.

    "Be kind"...could this mean to extend compassion? to self and others?...sounds like happiness calling again...the phone rings...Hello, Usui-sensi, is that you?

    Pandora...Your words struck a nerve in me....hence my short response...lol


    Much peace to you

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    Re: Duality or Separation Consciousness

    Post by Milarepa on Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:26 pm

    Reikijim wrote:
    Pandora wrote:
    It's a difficult concept for me, dealing with the abuse I suffered as a child. But I can see now how my behaviour must have thoroughly irritated my father, who was trying to deal with his own issues, and my behaviour may well have contributed to his reactions.

    A complex subject indeed.


    Or not....

    Children are granted special considerations based on the fact that they have limited life experience. Children cannot be expected to know, when a parent is tired, at the end of his or her, respective rope. Children have never had the experience of the responsibilities of adulthood, so cannot be expected to comprehend adulthood`s tiring and trying circumstances. Children are busy,busy,busy learning, growing and experiencing themselves. By adult standards...they are self-involved, unaware...they cannot be anything else...This absolves them from the responsibility of which you speak.

    Nothing we do, as children, can make us responsible for the actions of an abusive parent. The parent`s own limitations are the sole proponent of the abuse. Our parents are to teach us, correct us through example, when we make mistakes, or be there when we need guidance. Abuse only teaches us to become perpetual victims, abuse others, or ourselves, mentally and physically.


    I come from a similar background, as do many others who never speak of it. The abuse i experienced would be considered mild by many standards. Yet one has to consider the attributes of the child to determine the extent of affect. I spent a couple of decades escaping self-views based in, and taught to me by my parents...a common story. I`m analytical by nature, and thank God for that, as I would have never been able to see myself, and help myself to escape the labels that were pasted on me, by them. Parents can, say nasty things to us, we believe it, absorb it, and sometimes become what they envision us as. Look around you....so very many people are caught in this trap....

    Before anyone assumes anything...I have much compassion for my parents. My mom is one of my best friends, my dad is on the other side. R.I.P.


    Reiki...lets talk about Reiki in this mix...Let`s talk about developing a state of mind, which allows us the ability to see our inner essence, who we really could be, our best scenario...true to our nature...not a societal projection, or an influence, created by a mentor/parent. Lets talk about self love, compassion for one`s own flaws...
    To me, the healing that Reiki permits us to accomplish almost always starts here in these ideas/words. I see lots of people here talking about what Reiki energy is...what ULFE is, and the differences in each, and what they can do. What happened to the concept that "the body/mind/spirit,(with the help of spirit) can heal it`s self" At this point in my understanding, I believe, Reiki attempts to put a person in a state of perception that will allow a person, to be in touch with themselves, in ways, and on levels, that can allow this/healing/self-realization, to happen.

    Wayne talks about the "divine spark". I believe Reiki may be an element of this, yet those two words are not enough to encompass Reiki`s complexities. What are the Reiki energies? At this point in my life I have no idea...but it is a wonderful thing to consider, and it`s wonderful to hear and converse with others about the possibilities. I look forward to leaning through others about this.

    I`ve never been in psychotherapy, I`ve never read psychology books. I have looked at myself, through objectivity and found things to work on/things to work with....that`s the mental part of healing in my experience/self-realization...yet that`s not enough...

    Reiki, allowed me to view...my spiritual nature, my little piece, of perfection...

    When people say Reiki is love, some laugh, yet I laugh at them, as there can be a huge element of compassion and peace contained in the experience of knowing ones divinity/essence...Reiki allows that connection...at least it did with me...very enlightening/healing..

    Books are great....other peoples ideas, very good, never can have too much info. These tools have certainly helped countless people.

    Life experience, contemplation of ones true nature, meditation, COMPASSION...this is what`s worked for me.

    What are the last two lines in the Reiki precepts really saying?

    I think they say..."work honestly"...to me this means connect with yourself and find your true nature. If you know yourself you will not find yourself in places that do not serve your true nature....could be a mantra for happiness...lol

    "Be kind to everyone/every living thing", and many other interpretations...please save me from the many different versions...goodness.

    "Be kind"...could this mean to extend compassion? to self and others?...sounds like happiness calling again...the phone rings...Hello, Usui-sensi, is that you?

    Pandora...Your words struck a nerve in me....hence my short response...lol


    Much peace to you

    Smile RJ

    very, VERY good post!


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    Re: Duality or Separation Consciousness

    Post by Reikijim on Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:07 pm

    Hi Folks,

    We were talking about the symbols alot....We have a symbols section so i moved some posts to

    www.reikilearninglounge.com/the-symbols-f6/variations-and-interpretations-regarding-the-use-of-symbols-t459.htm

    have fun...a very interesting discussion is developing

    Smile RJ

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