How long is your Level 3 training?

Pandora wrote:lol... I just had a vision of Ramsbottom Reiki! Oh dear... it does't quite have the same ring to it as Usui Reiki!



On a serious point, if what I teach is not Usui Reiki, then what is it? Is it Reiki at all? Not even if I do the Reiki attunements and teach the hand positions and the Reiki history and symbols?

It can't be Usui sensei's system if it's not his system you are teaching, . It's uncomfortable for us to accept that, i know it was for me. that's the bottom line though.

This is only my opinon, but if one was lucky enough to be taught what Takata sensei taught, then it's Usui sensei's system. This isn't the same as learning from the Reiki Alliance either neccessarily.

If a person has the connection to Reiki, and the principles, we know that was a part of Usui sensei's system. And yeah, the symbols are an integral part. When one starts to teach things liek chakras, angels, etc, although there's nothing wrong with that, the system is changed, so it's not longer Usui sensei's, . It's at this point that usually, what is being taught is renamed. Or, at least, should be, .

Take care
Wayne

Milarepa wrote:

Pandora wrote:lol... I just had a vision of Ramsbottom Reiki! Oh dear... it does't quite have the same ring to it as Usui Reiki!



On a serious point, if what I teach is not Usui Reiki, then what is it? Is it Reiki at all? Not even if I do the Reiki attunements and teach the hand positions and the Reiki history and symbols?

It can't be Usui sensei's system if it's not his system you are teaching, . It's uncomfortable for us to accept that, i know it was for me. that's the bottom line though.

This is only my opinon, but if one was lucky enough to be taught what Takata sensei taught, then it's Usui sensei's system. This isn't the same as learning from the Reiki Alliance either neccessarily.

If a person has the connection to Reiki, and the principles, we know that was a part of Usui sensei's system. And yeah, the symbols are an integral part. When one starts to teach things liek chakras, angels, etc, although there's nothing wrong with that, the system is changed, so it's not longer Usui sensei's, . It's at this point that usually, what is being taught is renamed. Or, at least, should be, .

Take care
Wayne

Thanks for that clarification, Wayne. I can teach my Reiki Level 1 course next week now knowing it is Reiki that I teach! Doesn't sound like it's Reiki that I practice, though!

Pandora wrote:Thanks for that clarification, Wayne. I can teach my Reiki Level 1 course next week now knowing it is Reiki that I teach! Doesn't sound like it's Reiki that I practice, though!

You're teaching AND practicing Reiki. It's just a somewhat different version of the Reiki that Usui Sensei taught. If we get too rigid in our hierarchies, we can stifle our own growth. There is no one "right" way. My two cents.

Dragonfly wrote:

Pandora wrote:Thanks for that clarification, Wayne. I can teach my Reiki Level 1 course next week now knowing it is Reiki that I teach! Doesn't sound like it's Reiki that I practice, though!

If we get too rigid in our hierarchies, we can stifle our own growth. There is no one "right" way. My two cents.

Yes, it's certianly not about 'hierarchy'. It's about accurately portraying what we're teaching, .

Take care
Wayne

Pandora wrote:

Milarepa wrote:

Pandora wrote:lol... I just had a vision of Ramsbottom Reiki! Oh dear... it does't quite have the same ring to it as Usui Reiki!



On a serious point, if what I teach is not Usui Reiki, then what is it? Is it Reiki at all? Not even if I do the Reiki attunements and teach the hand positions and the Reiki history and symbols?

It can't be Usui sensei's system if it's not his system you are teaching, . It's uncomfortable for us to accept that, i know it was for me. that's the bottom line though.

This is only my opinon, but if one was lucky enough to be taught what Takata sensei taught, then it's Usui sensei's system. This isn't the same as learning from the Reiki Alliance either neccessarily.

If a person has the connection to Reiki, and the principles, we know that was a part of Usui sensei's system. And yeah, the symbols are an integral part. When one starts to teach things liek chakras, angels, etc, although there's nothing wrong with that, the system is changed, so it's not longer Usui sensei's, . It's at this point that usually, what is being taught is renamed. Or, at least, should be, .

Take care
Wayne

Thanks for that clarification, Wayne. I can teach my Reiki Level 1 course next week now knowing it is Reiki that I teach! Doesn't sound like it's Reiki that I practice, though!

It' still 'Reiki' that's being taught, and practised. After all, is Jikden not Reiki? Is Komyo not Reiki? Yet, Jikiden isn't Komyo, . Reiki is a generic term for a collection of styles. When one attributes a founders name to a style, it should mean it's his style.

If on the other hand, one can suggest since Usui sensei is in the lineage, that gives the right to use his name, then that logic would mean all Reiki styles are Usui Reiki.

I think he'd have something to say about that, hehe.

take care
Wayne

Milarepa wrote:If on the other hand, one can suggest since Usui sensei is in the lineage, that gives the right to use his name, then that logic would mean all Reiki styles are Usui Reiki.

I think he'd have something to say about that, hehe.

take care
Wayne

I was taught Reiki using the William Lee Rand manual, but my teacher added in the chakras, which are not emphasized at all in the WLR training. (He may have learned that from his teacher.) I was told it was Usui Reiki, and given what I'm reading here, what I learned basically is, with the exception of the chakra work.

It's my understanding that all forms of Reiki use
the ULFE. Some folks have attached and adapted
Usui's base to meet their own style preference of
presenting Reiki. I find it can get complicated when
teaching a student who has been taught by another
Reiki teacher who's style has had add on's that I do
not teach.I do not feel that the student has been
taught the wrong way just a different way.

chi_solas wrote:I do not feel that the student has been
taught the wrong way just a different way.

I totally agree with you.

I understand the desire to return to an "authentic source" and it can be useful to learn about those origins and practices. But that doesn't mean that what has been adapted since then because of teacher preference or insight is wrong. All spiritual practices and healing work will undergo some changes and transformation as they are used and reinterpreted for their community and times. I think what's most important is to respect the gifts that Usui Sensei, Dr. Hayashi, Mrs. Takata and others have shared and made available to the world.

What I enjoy about going to Reiki circles is the exposure to different techiques or ways of approaching working with Reiki that are not identical to what I've learned.

Thaak wrote:

Dragonfly wrote:Thanks guys! I just wanted to make sure I heard that distinction because I have heard/read many different interpretations about what benefit one would receive from multiple attunements. I very much like the idea of sharing.

For me, receiving another attunement to something I've already been attuned is just another chance to receive a very nice blessing. Certainly something that is fun to share with someone.

I like this idea, especially since it is said that Usui Sensei practice reiju (blessings/reattunement) each time he was with his students.

We can never receive too many blessings!

Rose

This is where I am right now
and
You guys have already covered it beautifully!!

XOXOXO