Salman wrote:
hi buddies
This thread resulted as an off-shoot in a thread called "I don't need Symbols, I got Kotodama"
http://www.reikilearninglounge.com/the-reiki-symbols-f6/i-don-t-need-the-symbols-i-got-kotodama-t1192.htm
as this topic has a lot of ramifications about the possible 'flavouring' of our reiki experiences through what others share with us about their own, it is expedient if we continue the discussion in an independent thread here
over to you Frank
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Frank wrote:
Hi Wayne,Milarepa wrote:Or, the fact that when i was told Reiki entered the crown, i felt it did. and that it came from the Seika Tanden, so i felt it coming from there instead. All so called 'milestones' at important parts of my understanding. Yet also at places where i'd already been told 'this is the way it is'.
And that is exactly the reason why people actually shouldn't read (or write) books about the subject, post at discussion boards/forums and why level 2 students shouldn't talk about their experiences to a level 1 student or something similar.
A good spiritual teacher will never explain beforehand what the student might experience.
If someone does tell you (read "one") what you ("one") might experience, or worse.. what you should experience, chances are high that you will experience it. However, not because you genuinely experience it.. but because your mind created the experience.
I try to practise Usui-sensei's teachings as close as possible for me and in the Usui Reiki Ryōhō style that I practise the teacher never explains the purpose of a meditation and never tells the student what he or she might feel.
If a meditation really works, the student should discover it's purpose and it's effects just by practising it.
You should have no (or as little as possible) expectations or foreknowledge. One should approach every meditation with a blank mind. (I know from experience that this can be very hard when you do think you already know something. Very, very hard.. but luckily not impossible!).
In the Usui Reiki Ryōhō style that I practise a student at the end of Shōden shouldn't share his/her experiences with someone who just started at Shōden level. (Shōden has various stages and if taught properly it can take a few months or even a year to reach the point at which a student might progress to the first part of Okuden.)
Another example: a student who completed the fist meditation of Okuden Kōki shouldn't talk about his/her experiences to someone just beginning with that meditation.
Regarding symbols and mantras (shirushi and jumon): in Usui Reiki Ryōhō a student would first meditate with the mantra. Only when he/she has fully experienced what the mantra is about he/she is handed the symbol (please note that the name of such a symbol is -not- the same as the mantra). The student actually connects the energetic experience he/she learned with a visual symbol.Milarepa wrote:should i really accpet tihngs without checking myself.
No.
The best thing, from my perspective, is to let go of everything you think you already know and find a real good teacher who does not tell you what you might or should experience.. who just explains how you should carry out a particular technique or meditation. I believe that this is the only way to truly experience what is true of all that is claimed and said about spiritual energy or spiritual development and what is nonsense. (And there surely is a lot of nonsense about spiritual energy/development out there..)
Hope this helps.
*Gasshō*
Frank
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