Martial Arts stuff (from different thread)

Milarepa wrote:

Rlei_ki wrote:

Bruce wrote:...In the same way that I'd have to disagree if someone claiming to be a martial practitioner said that he used the chakras instead of the dan tian (tanden), but that it doesn't matter.

Unless perhaps, he was a student of Kalari payat, or some other Indian art...

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Kind of like an Indian version of Kung fu? Looks like Kung Fu a bit (and aspects of capoeria), they use animals as basis of art also. It's said Kalari payat is one of the oldest arts. I wonder, would there have been any link between Kalari & Kung fu, via those that travelled East?

take care
Wayne

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Thaak wrote:

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BRIEF HISTORY OF NK

In 1973, our first school opened in Minneapolis, Minnesota under the direction of Grand Masters and 8th Degree Black Belts, John Worley and Larry Carnahan. With 24 locations in Minnesota and 4 in the Northwest Suburbs of Chicago, NK has become the largest martial arts organization in the Midwest. NK has taught over 60,000 people and currently has over 6,000 active students.

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The expert instructors at NK are continuing to refine Korean Tae Kwon Do and Japanese Karate by adding techniques and theory relevant to the modern American lifestyle, while preserving the traditions and philosophy of its Eastern heritage. Using the best aspect of Korean Tae Kwon Do and Japanese Karate, NK is considered an American style of Karate. This blend of East and West makes NK a truly unique martial art system.
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One of the most important qualities in successful people is the possession of an unquenchable drive and determination. A spirit that never gives up, that never quits, and always keeps fighting. National Karate has been developing this indomitable spirit in people since 1973. That is why we are so proud of the men, women, and children who have achieved one of the most coveted and respected accomplishments in life...the rank of Black Belt!

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, and I can’t find it now, but last night I was reading some online (take the credibility of it for whatever it is having been an unverified/able online source) stuff on the history of Shotokan Karate. Part of the history went back to Karate’s foundation in Chinese Boxing and Kung Fu. So it also gave a brief history of Kung Fu.

Bottom line, a Buddhist Monk from India who brought Chan (Zen) Buddhism to the Shaolin Monks in China also brought a martial art and trained the Monks in such. This eventually became the Shaolin Kung Fu we see today.

Thaak wrote:
Bottom line, a Buddhist Monk from India who brought Chan (Zen) Buddhism to the Shaolin Monks in China also brought a martial art and trained the Monks in such. This eventually became the Shaolin Kung Fu we see today.

Rlei_ki wrote:

Bruce wrote:...In the same way that I'd have to disagree if someone claiming to be a martial practitioner said that he used the chakras instead of the dan tian (tanden), but that it doesn't matter.

Unless perhaps, he was a student of Kalari payat, or some other Indian art...

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Rlei_ki wrote:

Bruce wrote:...In the same way that I'd have to disagree if someone claiming to be a martial practitioner said that he used the chakras instead of the dan tian (tanden), but that it doesn't matter.

Unless perhaps, he was a student of Kalari payat, or some other Indian art...

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Rlei_ki wrote:
What about the Western arts?

For example, the UK's home-grown art of E-T:
"The Ancient Lancastrian Art of Self-defence"

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Bruce wrote: Does kalari payat teach the practitioner to use chakras in martial applications?

Colin wrote:Not to mention the Salford Kiss ...

Rlei_ki wrote:

Colin wrote:Not to mention the Salford Kiss ...

ah yes, an elegantly simple technique, closely related to the "Norris-Green Nut"...

Both techniques of course usually being executed by alcohol-fuelled practitioners, in the appropriate 'social' setting, at the appropriate nocturnal hour, and only after engaging in the customary two-part ritual:

the first part being the formal exchange of derogatory remarks, and insinuations concerning for example, ones virility, ones parentage, etc

and the second part being the 'kotodama'-like intonations of one's companion to the effect of:
"kuh mon, lee vit, ees noh wur tit!"



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I do know the chakra system is a focus of several meditation practices dealing with energy-cultivation; also chakra-balancing is part of the heavily massage-centred therapeutic practices associated with Kalari.

There is also a lot of focus on energy meridians (nadi) and presser points (marma) both for therapeutic and offensive usage; so I would speculate that as nadis, marmas and chakras all inter-relate, it is quite possible that at some level of training, Kalari may possibly teach some sort of offensive use of chakras (or rather, chakra force)

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thehungrycaterpillar wrote:



OMG,

I was going to ask Andy to teach me about the 'presser' points...
hmmmm..........
for self defense ofcourse, I may or may not need it in the future, it is not like I am going to use them on my guests or anything....

I know a couple of the pressure points. But not real well, and probably not well enough to use in combat.

Milarepa wrote:


P.S. i've also read of martial arts roots coming from India. Stories of 'fighting monks'. I think i mentioned before, there's a strong opinion, in certain circels, that most of humanities knowledge comes from India, and the Vedas.

thehungrycaterpillar wrote:

I know a couple of the pressure points. But not real well, and probably not well enough to use in combat.

Teach me, teach me????

Pretty hard via message board or email.

thehungrycaterpillar wrote:there is one 1" below the ears???

Thaak wrote:

thehungrycaterpillar wrote:there is one 1" below the ears???

yes, right behind the jaw bone. The TMJ is typically a very tender spot to touch.

Also one under the arms just below the arm pit.

In the meaty part between thumb and index finger.

anywhere between the bones in the and between fingers.

Forearm just below the elbow

Just above the knee along the outside of the thigh

Under the chin

but I like the Eyes, Nose, Throat, Solar Plexus, Groin, Knee as devastating targets to take your opponent out of the fight fast.

thehungrycaterpillar wrote:

Thaak wrote:

thehungrycaterpillar wrote:there is one 1" below the ears???

yes, right behind the jaw bone. The TMJ is typically a very tender spot to touch.

Also one under the arms just below the arm pit.

In the meaty part between thumb and index finger.

anywhere between the bones in the and between fingers.

Forearm just below the elbow

Just above the knee along the outside of the thigh

Under the chin

but I like the Eyes, Nose, Throat, Solar Plexus, Groin, Knee as devastating targets to take your opponent out of the fight fast.

'KEWL'!!!!!!!!! ( as in -45 degrees.....)

Now, if only somebody will agree to be my guinea pig.... Do sleeping participants count??



I am totally joking!

Thanks a million!!!!!!!! but what exactly do you do with those?? I have seen in the movies people using two fingers to jab?? what happens then??

Some are jabbable. Those hurt and can cause numbness and even temporary paralysis or muscle spasm in the limb (or for behind the jawbone/under the ear can cause disorientation or loss of balance.) Unless you know what you are doing though, they mostly just hurt.

thehungrycaterpillar wrote:

Some are jabbable. Those hurt and can cause numbness and even temporary paralysis or muscle spasm in the limb (or for behind the jawbone/under the ear can cause disorientation or loss of balance.) Unless you know what you are doing though, they mostly just hurt.

ummm....
I don't know if I can bring myself to do that to somebody...

chuckle... yeah, not something that you can easily find someone to practice with.

Thaak wrote:
... under the arms just below the arm pit.
In the meaty part between thumb and index finger.
anywhere between the bones in the and between fingers.
Forearm just below the elbow
Just above the knee along the outside of the thigh
Under the chin
but I like the Eyes, Nose, Throat, Solar Plexus, Groin, Knee as devastating targets to take your opponent out of the fight fast...

Some are jabbable. Those hurt and can cause numbness and even temporary paralysis or muscle spasm in the limb (or for behind the jawbone/under the ear can cause disorientation or loss of balance.)

Unless you know what you are doing though, they mostly just hurt.