how do 'switch' within multiple lineages

Opinions/questions from those new to
the Reiki system are as valuable as
opinions from folks involved in the
Reiki system for years. As a Reiki
teacher I appreciate your input on the
RLL. It helps others who fear asking
a question thinking its sounds stupid
or they'll get chastised for asking or
commenting about Reiki lineage issues
as Salman has brought forth. These
discussions are not meant to put others
down. They help sort out differences
and help us enhance our own knowledge
about the Reiki systems

Thank you for encouraging me Bridget Yes, I also think that helps when the newbies are open to ask questions and give opinions on different subjects.
In discussions we find the truth!
I love learning about Reiki through RLL and I am happy to be able to share my opinions when I have something to say.
The subjects discussed on RLL are not discussed on any other forum I've been signed up so far and they are very interesting
as the people commenting and sharing thoughts and experiences.
Thank you !

I believe it was Suzuki Roshi who is quoted to having said:
"In the beginner's mind there are endless possibilities, in the experts there are few."

chi_solas wrote:Colin, I've never heard of the
term "5 elements" of Reiki.If I
were asked what they are. I'd
say precepts, hand positions,
symbols, techniques/rituals,
attunments. It would seem to me
that some of us might have learned
different styles of Reiki and that
we may also have been taught to use
terms that differentiate the styles
we use.

Spot on, Bridget! That is the exact list of the Five Elements of Reiki (i.e. what constitutes a system of Reiki practice).

This division into five elements was first put forward by Frans and Bronwen Steine and I think they sum up the system of Reiki quite well!

There are, of course, other divisions. For example, Phyllis Furumoto (and the Reiki Alliance) have 4 Aspects and Nine Elements of Reiki:

The 4 Aspects:

• Healing Practice
  Personal Development
  Spiritual Discipline
  Mystic Order

The 9 Elements:

• Initiation
  Symbols
  Treatment
  Oral Tradition
  Spiritual Lineage
  History
  Money
  Precepts
  Form Of Teaching

The original article with more information on the elements:

http://www.reikialliance.com/usui-shiki-ryoho

Thanks Colin. I'm really getting
a lesson here. 4 aspects 9 elements
What an interesting way of pulling
the system into focus.

chi_solas wrote:

Opinions/questions from those new to
the Reiki system are as valuable as
opinions from folks involved in the
Reiki system for years. As a Reiki
teacher I appreciate your input on the
RLL. It helps others who fear asking
a question thinking its sounds stupid
or they'll get chastised for asking or
commenting about Reiki lineage issues
as Salman has brought forth. These
discussions are not meant to put others
down. They help sort out differences
and help us enhance our own knowledge
about the Reiki systems

very truly said Bridget

it is through fora that i have learnt the basics of reiki and then found my teacher like Elly had

learning is always a two-way communication.... what we ask helps us to learn, but same time helps the teachers to revisit their thoughts... good students are always a great impetus for teachers' learning

putting questions is, most of the times, not meant to 'test' teachers' knowledge or to show, on the part of the student, that i know things.... it is presumed to be a genuine action within the natural course of learning... however, sometimes students ask things whose answers they know to some extent... this is again not meant to test the teacher, but to show him that we are in the loop with him, and to earn some praise, if it is

i m so particular on this point since i had the experience of my first ever reiki teacher reacting to my never-ending questions with reservations... right on spot Bridget that the purpose of raising questions is mend the way of differences instead of projecting the differences.

when intents are noble, things generally go good!!



take care

salman

Buck wrote:I believe it was Suzuki Roshi who is quoted to having said:
"In the beginner's mind there are endless possibilities, in the experts there are few."

I see my students as seeds
drinking up the information
and growing. Growing/learning
does not stop when they leave
class,RLL opens the door to
connect/share Reiki ideas. I
too am a lifelong learner &
I am always interested in where
did all the Reiki "curriculum"
develop/change. If we look at
Lineages we may find answers

This Post has SO MUCH info but I almost missed reading this.... I thought this topic was about lineages!!

great thread...I've been a little confused in the past about one teacher belonging to a variety of lineages, and yet keeping to to one particular 'style' during attunement...

and i've often wondered if some 'high profile' teachers who have multiple styles under their hat have been entirely honest about the lineages they put to paper as part of one style.. my inital training was in two differnt 'styles' up to master level, you could say it was a combination of two styles not mixed, but one style at one level, then a differnt style for the subsequent levels..... I was taught all levels by the same teacher and have the appropriate lineages ..

this weekend I have been initiated into jikiden Reiki......and as a result a very clear realisation has come to pass that, it doesn't matter what lineage or 'style' of reiki
one has been attuned/initiated to, as long as that lineage can be traced back to usui, and the attunement process applied correctly the ability to use Reiki will always prevail.

all any reiki attunement does is allow us to tap into a little more directly the source of All healing....which I've always known.

Quite a few reiki practitioners think reiki is different from other types of spiritual healing.....it's only different in it's application and accessibility....

I was reading again this morning how Mikao Usui tripped up and hurt his foot then placed his hands on it to heal.......Another lady I trained with a few years ago ( not reiki) had a similar experience when she was bitten by a poisonous insect, she placed her hands on her leg and a great white light flooded to the point of her bite and stopped the poison from spreading.............it is the exact same energy, no difference at all, it's just that Usui developed a very specific way of helping others access that very same energy.

One thing I do like about Reiki is it's very simple way people can open themselves up to the ability to heal via attunements..... it really is so very very simple...

Reiki is becoming a bit like religion now, in that there are so many different 'styles' or offshoots.........one divine source, with lots of different ways of accessing it.

In religion I wish there was a more 'universal spirit' which appreciated that all are respecting the same creative force.....In Reiki we too are all acessing the same creative force, just in many different ways.......perhaps we should start embracing the similarities instead of hunting down the differences?

Colin's idea of Reiki pure and simple, is resonating more and more......Reiki is reiki is reiki.....whether or not the recipe has added salt or sugar, cooked on the hob in a pan, or caseroled in the oven , the tasty outcome is always the same...

( excuse the waffle, I'm all loved up! ahaha)

HMM sounds like an energy overload could happen.