Practicing Hui Yin during Attunements

Hi Everybody!

I was taught to practice Hui Yin while giving attunements.
I realize that it is strictly not Usui style, Just wondering how many Teachers actually practice that if at all you were taught to do that. How important is it for the attunement to be successful?

Just also curious to know what style of Reiki influence is that?!

Thanking you,

Hamsa

thehungrycaterpillar wrote:Hi Everybody!

I was taught to practice Hui Yin while giving attunements.
I realize that it is strictly not Usui style, Just wondering how many Teachers actually practice that if at all you were taught to do that. How important is it for the attunement to be successful?

Just also curious to know what style of Reiki influence is that?!

Thanking you,

Hamsa

I was taught that.

thehungrycaterpillar wrote:Hi Everybody!

I was taught to practice Hui Yin while giving attunements.
I realize that it is strictly not Usui style, Just wondering how many Teachers actually practice that if at all you were taught to do that. How important is it for the attunement to be successful?

Just also curious to know what style of Reiki influence is that?!

Thanking you,

Hamsa

Hi Hamsa


I wasn't taught to hold the Hui Yin positions while giving attunements in any of the styles I have been attuned to. I am not sure who first introduced it into Reiki but I would imagine it would be something to do with the Iris Ishikura/Arthur Robertson/William Rand Usui/Tibetan Reiki influence. Strange, I know, because Hui Yin is probably of Chinese origin rather than Tibetan - but then Reiki isn't really Tibetan either!

So, if most (if not all) of Takata's master students didn't use Hui Yin and all the people doing attunements to Gendai, Komyo, Jikiden (and various Usui Reiki Ryoho styles I am aware of) are not using Hui Yin, I think it is fairly safe to say that it is not necessary to do that for a successful attunement.

However, whether you should just stop doing it if you were originally taught to do it and are not purposely attuning someone in a different style of Reiki is a different matter! You would no longer be passing on the system you were originally taught (maybe?).

Hi Folks,


I would say that it only matters if you are representing Usui/tibetan Reiki.It`s definitly part of that style of initiation....So if you are handing someone a diploma stating that they are a master teacher of Usui/Tibetan...then they should be taught the "Violet Breath" and Hui Yin techniques to represent Rand`s system the way he intended it.

Jim

Colin wrote:

thehungrycaterpillar wrote:Hi Everybody!

I was taught to practice Hui Yin while giving attunements.
I realize that it is strictly not Usui style, Just wondering how many Teachers actually practice that if at all you were taught to do that. How important is it for the attunement to be successful?

Just also curious to know what style of Reiki influence is that?!

Thanking you,

Hamsa

Hi Hamsa


I wasn't taught to hold the Hui Yin positions while giving attunements in any of the styles I have been attuned to. I am not sure who first introduced it into Reiki but I would imagine it would be something to do with the Iris Ishikura/Arthur Robertson/William Rand Usui/Tibetan Reiki influence. Strange, I know, because Hui Yin is probably of Chinese origin rather than Tibetan - but then Reiki isn't really Tibetan either!

So, if most (if not all) of Takata's master students didn't use Hui Yin and all the people doing attunements to Gendai, Komyo, Jikiden (and various Usui Reiki Ryoho styles I am aware of) are not using Hui Yin, I think it is fairly safe to say that it is not necessary to do that for a successful attunement.

However, whether you should just stop doing it if you were originally taught to do it and are not purposely attuning someone in a different style of Reiki is a different matter! You would no longer be passing on the system you were originally taught (maybe?).

as I research the folks back in my lineage to
Barbara McCullough the 14th Reiki Master of
Takata's group. It appears that quite a lot of
changes were happening.

On the 5th day of February 1981 David received his spiritual Initiation into the mystical energy of Reiki from the Tibetan Master directing the Reiki Ray. Later the same year, after finishing his teacher training Reiki Master Virginia Samdahl, on the 5th day of August 1981, he was initiated by Reiki Master Barbara McCullough and subsequently by Phyllis Furumoto, the grand daughter of Hawaya Takata, becoming the 24th Reiki Master in the lineage of Hawaya Takata (Initiated by Hayashi, Initiated by Usui). David trained in the professional techniques of Sacral-Cranial Structural Balancing with Dr. Raymond Simpson, D.C. (Leigh, Florida) and was a certified Myofunctional Therapist from the Myofunctional Institute in Coral Gables, Florida.

Barbara Ray a student of Takata's
I understand was next in line to
step into Takata's role... the
following excerpt is from James
deacon's web-site

From 1978 - 1980, Barbara Ray studied Reiki extensively with Hawayo Takata at Takata-Sensei's home in Iowa, during which time, she maintains, Takata-Sensei instructed her in:
"... the entire, intact Seven Degrees of the Usui System of Natural Healing...", and passed,
"... the complete Keys..." to the system to her.
Barbara Ray is of the opinion that the only way to activate and transmit Reiki is through these: "...correct, intact and non-polluted Keys."
Barbara Ray began using the expression "The Radiance Technique" in 1986.

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thehungrycaterpillar wrote:

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Sorry , did not get any notifications so I thought nobody posted a reply! OOPs!!

You've been sleeping during the day time

"So, if most (if not all) of Takata's master students didn't use Hui Yin and all the people doing attunements to Gendai, Komyo, Jikiden (and various Usui Reiki Ryoho styles I am aware of) are not using Hui Yin, I think it is fairly safe to say that it is not necessary to do that for a successful attunement.

Dear Colin,

That was super cool to know that!!
WOW, very interesting!!

What is weird is that My teacher uses tibetan fire dragon, Om & Rama symbols for attunement and still calls it an Usui style!!!!!!! I love my teacher, her style works. But my eyes popped out when I was introduced to those symbols and she didn't have much of an answer where she got those!!
Apparently her teachers passed it on & so she to us.

The funny thing is we also were taught other symbols during reiki 2 & upon exploring later found then to be from Karuna Reiki!!
:afraid:

I wouldn't change a thing, but I can see that the violet breath even when I practice it as a newbie, how powerful it is!!!!
Some styles I came to know do it for healing attunements!


WONDERS OF WONDERS!!!!! - these attunement processes are!!
never cease to Amaze me!

Thank you!!

Reikijim wrote:

Hi Folks,


I would say that it only matters if you are representing Usui/tibetan Reiki.It`s definitly part of that style of initiation....So if you are handing someone a diploma stating that they are a master teacher of Usui/Tibetan...then they should be taught the "Violet Breath" and Hui Yin techniques to represent Rand`s system the way he intended it.

Jim

Hey, Thanks Jim!!
Puzzle pieces falling in it's place!!


Interesting!!!!! Yeah, now I remember she is also from that lineage! But she still calls it Usui Ryoho though.. still not tibetan, although all of the levels seem to be utilizing the Tibetan fire dragon symbol!

chi_solas wrote:

You've been sleeping during the day time

Thanks Briget!!!! I should've checked!!!

Due you still practice Hui Yin ? Do you use it any other place other than attunements, very very very curious!!! & very hungry curious!! :-)

chi_solas wrote:

thehungrycaterpillar wrote:


You've been sleeping during the day time

Thanks Briget!!!! I should've checked!!!

Due you still practice Hui Yin ? Do you use it any other place other than attunements, very very very curious!!! & very hungry curious!! :-)

A practitioner at a Reiki share
taught me how she does the Hui Yin.

When I'm teaching I bring my students
attention to the fact that there are
many styles of Reiki out there with
different Rituals,Techniques,& Symbols.

chi_solas wrote:

A practitioner at a Reiki share
taught me how she does the Hui Yin.

When I'm teaching I bring my students
attention to the fact that there are
many styles of Reiki out there with
different Rituals,Techniques,& Symbols.

Bridget, It NEVER ceases to astound me how these attunements work!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have so many 'recipes' and they all seem to work as effectively!!!!!

So, what does it all boil down to????? Just the intention/tuning in? Only that seems to me to be the common denominator!!

What's the secret combination????!!!! May be it's all really simple...


Hamsa

chi_solas wrote:

thehungrycaterpillar wrote:

A practitioner at a Reiki share
taught me how she does the Hui Yin.

When I'm teaching I bring my students
attention to the fact that there are
many styles of Reiki out there with
different Rituals,Techniques,& Symbols.

Bridget, It NEVER ceases to astound me how these attunements work!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have so many 'recipes' and they all seem to work as effectively!!!!!

So, what does it all boil down to????? Just the intention/tuning in? Only that seems to me to be the common denominator!!

What's the secret combination????!!!! May be it's all really simple...


Hamsa

Elementary dear Watson.

I would say it's all in
the innate basics.

chi_solas wrote:
Elementary dear Watson.

I would say it's all in
the innate basics.

EXACTLY right??!!!

we have to study for this many years to just arrive at that????? .... which we probably suspected somewhere deep inside but never was sure........or too unclear to believe in....

Hey Hamsa, was it through the willy rand school, if so, it seems, you have the option to work with both his version and Usui version, as both are taught and are within the international Reiki school master manual.............blessingsx

thehungrycaterpillar wrote:
So, what does it all boil down to????? Just the intention/tuning in? Only that seems to me to be the common denominator!!

What's the secret combination????!!!! May be it's all really simple...

Hamsa

I think that what it boils down to is the individual, which although is a simple answer, consequentially complicates things (usually with more questions)... What is it that the individual wants to get out of the experience, how do they perceive that experience, how do they communicate that experience to others, how willing are they to allow others to have experiences similar but different than their own, how willing are they to support others on their quest for experiences, how honest are they about their ability to help others, how honest are they about whether or not they can help others, and whether or not that person finds their-self in the process as a whole.

Here's a test for ya: Communicate Bridget's simplification to someone with no experience in a way that allows them to experience it to arrive at the same understanding you have just experienced.

Yah... simple!!! hahaha (or do I mean "Mu-wa-hah-hah-hah!")

When I was introduced to Reiki
I was not aware of the many
different styles beyond Usui.

Dharma wrote:Hey Hamsa, was it through the willy rand school, if so, it seems, you have the option to work with both his version and Usui version, as both are taught and are within the international Reiki school master manual.............blessingsx

Hey Dharma!!

Oh, didn't know that there were two versions!! Hmmm... Cool!

Thanks, will check it out!
:-)


hamsa

Buck wrote:

I think that what it boils down to is the individual, which although is a simple answer, consequentially complicates things (usually with more questions)... What is it that the individual wants to get out of the experience, how do they perceive that experience, how do they communicate that experience to others, how willing are they to allow others to have experiences similar but different than their own, how willing are they to support others on their quest for experiences, how honest are they about their ability to help others, how honest are they about whether or not they can help others, and whether or not that person finds their-self in the process as a whole.

Here's a test for ya: Communicate Bridget's simplification to someone with no experience in a way that allows them to experience it to arrive at the same understanding you have just experienced.

Yah... simple!!! hahaha (or do I mean "Mu-wa-hah-hah-hah!")

Hey Yo Buck!! How the heck are ya??


Actually, That is the stage I am dipping my toes into as we speak..... I want that stage to be a nice lengthy one where I figure it all out...... I think it is so important that If I didn't fare well, then I promised myself that I will never become a teacher!

Thank you for condensing it for me!! ... you just shortened the process for me, I'd say!!


Hamsa

One of the Reiki challenges is embracing
everyone's uniqueness in how they teach.
The way different styles acheive the same
healing results,even when we use different
symbols,rituals.

thehungrycaterpillar wrote:
Actually, That is the stage I am dipping my toes into as we speak..... I want that stage to be a nice lengthy one where I figure it all out...... I think it is so important that If I didn't fare well, then I promised myself that I will never become a teacher!

You'll be an excellent teacher sooner than later... and then you'll find out just how much more you need to study the material... hahahahaha

Buck wrote:

You'll be an excellent teacher sooner than later... and then you'll find out just how much more you need to study the material... hahahahaha

awww! Thank You!!!!!!!!!





yep, I believe it, I'll keep that in mind!! :-D

chi_solas wrote:One of the Reiki challenges is embracing
everyone's uniqueness in how they teach.
The way different styles acheive the same
healing results,even when we use different
symbols,rituals.

So True!!!! So True!!!! I just saw it all in a span of few months and am still baffled by it!!!

thehungrycaterpillar wrote:

chi_solas wrote:One of the Reiki challenges is embracing
everyone's uniqueness in how they teach.
The way different styles acheive the same
healing results,even when we use different
symbols,rituals.

So True!!!! So True!!!! I just saw it all in a span of few months and am still baffled by it!!!

The Reiki system like other healing systems
has become so diverse, individualized. and
custom designed. I was unaware of this process
happening. The internet sure gives us more
exposure to the many different styles out there.