Is Reiki forever?

EzriReiki wrote:

Lambs-Wool wrote:

some initial thoguhts on the trail of these deep questions :

Milarepa wrote:In the notes attributed to Harue Kanemitsu, a level 2 student of Takata sensei, Takata sensei is said to have spoke in-course ' She said we would never lose our healing power, except if we were to try and teach REIKI to another.....'.

teaching reiki means teaching how to teach reiki (i.e. master level) or just teaching how to do reiki (levels one and two ) ? i feel she was alluding to master level by saying those words

What Harue reports is what Takata seems to have said to most level 1 students. I believe Takata was not warning Reiki teachers they would lose their ability if they taught students, but Takata was talking directly to the new students who hand only begun their Reiki training, warning them against impulsively trying to teach what was not theirs to teach


EZRI

Dragonfly wrote:

Milarepa wrote:
There's also another factor. I was gonna write it last night, but didn't feel comfortable. It was beleived by many in Japan after the turn of the 20th century that things like Reiki could actually deplete our own lifeforce! Fastforward to now. Off the top of my head there's quite a few Reiki practitioners who have had heart issues, and various other ailments. Course, they may have been destined to have that anyhow, but just how preventable medicine is the principles & passing on Reiki? I say passing on Reiki cause to my mind, it's quite a few teachers who've had/do have health problems. Some very, very well known ones.

Uncomfortable reading this prob, i'm uncomfortable writing it. I dunno if it's right, i hope not, but it's always useful to generate discussion. some things i've said here are fact, whether they tie in our not, jeepers, i dunno.

Warmest wishes
Wayne

My husband noted a few years ago that there are a number of spiritual teachers who have experienced stroke (and heart attacks), including Usui Sensei. So, if we are connected in this state of consciousness and are healing our bodies, why would we experience these major "insults" to the body? Some of it could be genetic predisposition, although there is evidence to suggest that you can override many aspects of your own genetic makeup (read Bruce Lipton's _The Biology of Belief_) and certainly you'd think that a highly evolved spiritual teacher might understand that. However, my husband, who works in health care, noted that our circulatory system requires a certain amount of arterial blood pressure in order to function properly. In other words, we need some stress in our lives. I wonder if people who meditate for long periods of time are existing so often in a super-relaxed state that it slows down arterial blood pressure to dangerous levels and causes either a bleed or perhaps even a blockage. Just a thought.

Shakti ~ Rising wrote:hmmm okay wayne.....to brush on the idea of symbols being 'placed ' inside us.... then using that same logic wouldn't you think it is possible to remove those symbols and in your view perhaps remove the ability to apply Reiki?

Milarepa wrote:it could be that it was kept secret, but surely there was less secrets at master level. Shinpiden means mystery teachings.

what we know for certain, is that much has been lost over the last 30 years or so, and continues to. Folks change things. So, how many hours a day you got sharon? isn't it much easier to go study stuff we've got readily available, such as chakras, etc? The other way, is that we go searching for answers, sometimes when we don't even know the questions. Very time consuming, very frustrating.

What should teachers do though? some teachers feel they should know everything about the subject they teach. There's nothing more embarrasing, not to mention useless, than a teacher not knowing the answers to basic questions.