Reiki can do no harm?

Colin wrote:

I get the impression here that some people are saying we should not give Reiki to people with conditions caused by other life-forms e.g. viruses, bacteria, fungi, parasites and even abnormal proliferation of our own cells. Mikao Usui, Chujiro Hayashi and Hawayo Takata all recommended hand positions for conditions such as these - so presumably they were happy to give Reiki in these circumstances and didn't think it would provide the causative agent with more energy?

I know my main reason for this topic was to highlight the oxymoron of ULE being provided to a living creature, whilst either directly or indirectly causing the death of countless others. There's no 'universal' there. the chat's weaving in an interesting direction.

For me it's easy to work. I don't regard Reiki as ULE, it's different from Qigong & say QT, in experience/feeling. I see Reiki as the effect of a humans divinity (this is why instantly Reiki is so spritual than other things), which is why it can easily create an environment in which other lifeforms would die.

hai friends,

interesting topic pls not mind i have some very different and
practical experience after that experience i can say surely reiki can harm
i am not trying to give negativeness to lot of friends but it is true.


if i am going to explain my one of terrible experience than again this article become very lengthy which i don't want. But i just give simple example....

work of boat to save us into water and boat have capability to take
us cross the river but if driver of boat is not experts than definitely
boat merge into water. same reiki or energy has power of everything
But receiver is not perfect than definitely it harm receiver...

it is sufficient to understand my hints i don't want to put that experienced
which i faced and if i explain it will give more negativeness than positiveness.



Thanks, love and regards,
vj

If the driver of the boat is not
experienced and sinks the boat then
he lacked the credentials to man the
boat. The folks in the boat should
have checked to see if he had the
skills to navigate the boat to safety.

when I facilitate Reiki I know that I
can help the recipient relax so they can
navigate their energy to remove blockages
that prevent them from moving forward so
they can keep themselves safe from harm

I would like to thank you all for taking the time and respond. I hope that we are all in agreement that our understanding of the world is rather limited for it is based on our five senses, which unfortunately are limited. So our understanding of Reiki isn't exception.

However, when like minded people are ready to exchange their points of view, in friendly environment such as this forum, than without any doubt everybody has a fair shot on achieving more. With that being said it seems (unlesss I misunderstood something) that we somehow getting to the point that Reiki could be used to harm people indirectly by “sending” it to the enemy of the person who is to be harmed (i.e. the viruses, bacteria etc.).

This is certainly very interesting twist and I am wondering what are your thoughts?

To be fair here I am going to start with my colorful point of view :-). I think that this wouldn't work. If we agree that everything is energy, us included, than it is fare to say that those energies have different values. Let's for the sake of simplicity say that summary of one person energy value is expressed as a color yellow (I said it will be colorful). And if that person that we now see as yellow energy, is to get in contact to Reiki and based on definition that Reiki is the highest vibration, let's give it value of color Red. Now what happens when Red & Yellow are mixed? Right, we have new quality here and if we add more red over the time this orange will also changed and eventually become Red.

As to the inadvertently feeding bacterias and/or viruses during full treatment, I think the easy way around it is to “send” (I am using this term for sake of simplicity :-)) Reiki to person's immune system.

Speaking of transformation process, I believe that most of us who are practicing Reiki for some time now, will affirm that we indeed did become better people (maybe the term itself is too broad) or do I dare to say “we did transform” :-)). Now the question that begs to be asked here is: “Is this to be attributedd to the aging process (as we age we becomee“wiser” :-) ) or did Reiki indeedincreasey our vibrations.

Regards,

Resko

Discover How Learning Reiki Can Change Your Life!

vijaybali wrote:
work of boat to save us into water and boat have capability to take
us cross the river but if driver of boat is not experts than definitely
boat merge into water. same reiki or energy has power of everything
But receiver is not perfect than definitely it harm receiver...

chi_solas wrote:If the driver of the boat is not
experienced and sinks the boat then
he lacked the credentials to man the
boat. The folks in the boat should
have checked to see if he had the
skills to navigate the boat to safety.

also, if we give two coins to the ferryman, he can steer the boat for us!

. This is sounding like a Zen Koan, hehe. Sorry, i'm just in a funny mood.

rzukic wrote:I would like to thank you all for taking the time and respond. I hope that we are all in agreement that our understanding of the world is rather limited for it is based on our five senses, which unfortunately are limited. So our understanding of Reiki isn't exception.

However, when like minded people are ready to exchange their points of view, in friendly environment such as this forum, than without any doubt everybody has a fair shot on achieving more. With that being said it seems (unlesss I misunderstood something) that we somehow getting to the point that Reiki could be used to harm people indirectly by “sending” it to the enemy of the person who is to be harmed (i.e. the viruses, bacteria etc.).

This is certainly very interesting twist and I am wondering what are your thoughts?

To be fair here I am going to start with my colorful point of view :-). I think that this wouldn't work. If we agree that everything is energy, us included, than it is fare to say that those energies have different values. Let's for the sake of simplicity say that summary of one person energy value is expressed as a color yellow (I said it will be colorful). And if that person that we now see as yellow energy, is to get in contact to Reiki and based on definition that Reiki is the highest vibration, let's give it value of color Red. Now what happens when Red & Yellow are mixed? Right, we have new quality here and if we add more red over the time this orange will also changed and eventually become Red.

As to the inadvertently feeding bacterias and/or viruses during full treatment, I think the easy way around it is to “send” (I am using this term for sake of simplicity :-)) Reiki to person's immune system.

Speaking of transformation process, I believe that most of us who are practicing Reiki for some time now, will affirm that we indeed did become better people (maybe the term itself is too broad) or do I dare to say “we did transform” :-)). Now the question that begs to be asked here is: “Is this to be attributedd to the aging process (as we age we becomee“wiser” :-) ) or did Reiki indeedincreasey our vibrations.

Regards,

Resko

Discover How Learning Reiki Can Change Your Life!

I know quite a few young folks
who are wiser than some older
folks.

I would say that Reiki was one of
the tools that helped me to enhance
my spiritual needs, that enhanced my
emotional needs that enhanced my
physical needs.

Colin wrote:

chi_solas wrote:

Dharma wrote:

rzukic wrote: wouldn't it be thinkable that Reiki would rather transform the “manipulator” before lettingg itself be manipulated?!

Thank You all for great insight

Sadly i dont think it does Transform in a light that we may deam positive, Reiki will flow to where it is most needed but much like a mother preganat with a child the energy will flow to the child. i recently lost my beloved dog to leishmania a disease similiar to aids, it is contracted through the bite of a sandfly, protozoan parasites live in the animal, i channeled to my dog many times a week, her sprit was amazing she could run in the mountains, chase mice.... the more i channeled the more her divine enrgy beacme stronger, but sadly now in reflection i see that as her spirit beacme stronger so did the dis ease, the creatures inside her where eating from the inside out, she became very quickly blind incontent the list is endless, i can see now that whilst i was healing her sprit i was also sending life force to those living in her, i have since spent much time meditaing over this and researching, my conclusion is simple i know for sure i would never channel to a soul with the same or similar condition, sometimes the greatest lessons are the most painful.
with much love and light

Darhma, sorry to hear your dog
passed over. I had a similar
experience with my dog. I made
the mistake of giving him Reiki
to heal him. Instead of giving
him Reiki for his higest good.

It could be said that Reiki-ing a
person with a Dis-ease would futher
feed the dis-ease. Give more life to
tumors. Tumors feed of the person. I
had to work on removing cancer cells,
and find a way to starve them. My
solution was to alkalize my system and
remove the acidity that feeds parisites/tumors.

I am also sorry to hear about your dog, Dharma (and Bridget) but I feel that Reiki can still help to ease transition. What Reiki cannot do is prevent death - we all have to go when our time is up!

I get the impression here that some people are saying we should not give Reiki to people with conditions caused by other life-forms e.g. viruses, bacteria, fungi, parasites and even abnormal proliferation of our own cells. Mikao Usui, Chujiro Hayashi and Hawayo Takata all recommended hand positions for conditions such as these - so presumably they were happy to give Reiki in these circumstances and didn't think it would provide the causative agent with more energy?

I know what your saying Colin it is true that actually in many cases when dealt with diverently any problem may well be eradicated. I was aware of the information out their on the subject…. we as healers learn so much healin our own lifes, I would think, our path of learning is not always kind, but does it do harm, you can not take a soul off a path it was always destined to walk, only help
I learnt a lot we must give thanks of that to each other, for that learning will help another soul it is not about what we can or cannot do but what we are willing to learn and then pass that on.

Can reiki do no harm?

It is my belief that in every action there is something good and something bad (like yin and yang), and if this is true, and reiki can do no harm, then consequently reiki could do nothing at all.

The world is a constant battlefield of different life forms, so while strengthening one party you cannot avoid making another party's situation worse. There is a saying that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. However, I believe that in the grand scheme the negative effects of a positively motivated action are usually negligible.

What I believe was originally meant with the phrase "reiki can do no harm" is that unlike drugs, it cannot be overdosed or misprescribed. That may well be true, although I've heard differing opinions. Probably also attempts to intentionally cause negative effects with reiki would not be successful. But then we also have other energy work methods that can be used to a negative effect, and sometimes they are taught under the label of reiki. I'm certain that there are many people out there using non-reiki practices totally convinced that what they're doing is reiki. So what can we say for sure? Certainly the name of reiki cannot protect from any misdeed or mistake made under that name?

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that I would recommend caution in producing any such categorical statements.

MattiT wrote:Can reiki do no harm?

It is my belief that in every action there is something good and something bad (like yin and yang), and if this is true, and reiki can do no harm, then consequently reiki could do nothing at all.

The world is a constant battlefield of different life forms, so while strengthening one party you cannot avoid making another party's situation worse. There is a saying that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. However, I believe that in the grand scheme the negative effects of a positively motivated action are usually negligible.

What I believe was originally meant with the phrase "reiki can do no harm" is that unlike drugs, it cannot be overdosed or misprescribed. That may well be true, although I've heard differing opinions. Probably also attempts to intentionally cause negative effects with reiki would not be successful. But then we also have other energy work methods that can be used to a negative effect, and sometimes they are taught under the label of reiki. I'm certain that there are many people out there using non-reiki practices totally convinced that what they're doing is reiki. So what can we say for sure? Certainly the name of reiki cannot protect from any misdeed or mistake made under that name?

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that I would recommend caution in producing any such categorical statements.

If Reiki uses life energy I cannot see
were it can do harm. It's my understanding
that when Reiki energy is offered that the
recipient takes in only what is needed. a
recipient can also not accept the energy.
I have heard other folks say that harm comes
when Reiki is sent and the intended recipient
is not expecting this "bolt" of energy.

I'd be interested in hearing what other members
think about this issue.

i remember the situation with a member on 4all. the girl ended up having lyme's disease, and Reiki made it worse. so bad she flatly refused for anymore dealings with it with me. maybe someone that never expereinced her situation might say it was a healing thing, but no-one is qualified to say that. if a treatment contra-indication is so bad, it puts into question how something that is supposed to by ule could do such a thing. unless it isn't ule?

Milarepa wrote:i remember the situation with a member on 4all. the girl ended up having lyme's disease, and Reiki made it worse. so bad she flatly refused for anymore dealings with it with me. maybe someone that never expereinced her situation might say it was a healing thing, but no-one is qualified to say that. if a treatment contra-indication is so bad, it puts into question how something that is supposed to by ule could do such a thing. unless it isn't ule?

hi Wayne


not particularly with the above said case, i have general comments as follows :


when things 'go bad' during reiki treatments, this is a critical learning opportunity as well... there we have to approach the case as compassionate humans as well as reiki practitioners... and our role as compassionate humans might not be given less importance than our role as reiki practitioners...


i was reading in QT-supercharging manual that we should 'ask the tissue' in which way it would accept energy... whether as a 'firehose' or as a 'mist'... sometimes, our abilities as reiki practitioners, particularly when we are experienced, direct us to use 'our best' and this invariably is translated as very powerful reiki exposure to the client/patient... which, on the other side, needs something mild and finesse to give to them....


so here our role of compassionate humans instruct us to 'go with the flow'



take care !

salman

sure, i just read this in the manual other day aloso, hehe. it of synchronicity!

these things, are subjective for the practitioner. we can converse with tissue, or use Byosen, etc, but our interpretation could be different than what the client is actually experiencing. this kinda is where the 'conflict' (if i can call it that) arises , in my example, for example, hehe.