hi Colin
that was exact sentiment i was wisihing to elicit from my elders here
Colin wrote:
Hi Salman
I also believe that Mikao Usui, Chujiro Hayashi and Hawayo Takata did not teach that the symbols should be used in the ways that you list.
it is particularly important for all the teachers to know and realize this fact before taking any single step of ascribing any thing they find good, to people like Takata and Hyashi...
Colin wrote:
However, I don't think that these teachers said that the symbols could NOT be used for these other purposes.
this is the moment of how we deduce things... sometimes silence amounts to acceptance, sometimes silence amounts to disapproval too
if our fertile imagination on this day suggests us that we put these symbols to uses other than prescribed by Takata Sensei, are we taking it for granted that Takata Sensei did not come to such novel thoughts ever herself ?
when Takata Sensei brought reiki to west, she must have done every possible thing to make reiki acceptable and deep rooted within the american society... didnt she ever come to this thought that reiki symbols could have put to other uses too ? did she never came to this thought, or she DID NOT choose to make public this thought ? this is where i m standing at the crossroad at the moment
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Colin wrote:
Many people have found that the symbols (and Reiki) can be useful in all kinds of situations and therefore pass their experience on to their students or in books or websites. I think it is important, though, that it is clearly pointed out that these are not traditional uses of the Reiki symbols.
the same !
i feel it is very very important Colin... reason being that in almost three years of my association with reiki as of today, it is only now that i m finding those facts made clear to me... i mean to say, that i have somehow consulted nearly 5 or 6 manuals of different teachers, plus the manual of level one of my local RMT.... i didnt find such information in such manuals where they could have clearly stated that such uses of Reiki are infact non-traditional...
Colin wrote:
In my Reiki 2 course, I teach how the symbols can be used according to Mrs Takata's teaching - traditional use. I also have a separate sections for non-traditional or Western uses of the symbols for the student to experiment with and also so they are aware of these uses that they will most likely encounter when speaking to other Reiki practitioners.
that is a very apt approach and i love and wish that all teachers have this vision
(a sidenote : you see why you do this ? since you yourself are aware that there is a difference between traditional uses and non-traditional uses of symbols... what if you yourself had 'assumed' that reiki symbols can be put to any use with a concurrent assumption that it does not matter what use Takata taught and what she didnt.. in that case, you might have had not separated the two sessions... this all relates to how the teachers themselves are well aware
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Colin wrote:
In my own experience I have had success in fixing a faulty DVD player and washing machine (two washing machines actually), removing stubborn lids and locks and I like to use CKRs (and a DKM) in a room before a Reiki session or course to give the room a nice feeling (which has been remarked upon by many, including my family members, who do not practice Reiki, by the way!).
this we can take as an 'empirical' evidence that reiki symbols do work on non-reiki uses too
Colin wrote:
The way I look at it, if everything is energy and has an optimal flow or pattern of this energy then it can benefit from the harmonising and balancing effect of Reiki, which is most easily focused using CKR.
that is a highly academic debate, to be honest
while i can testify that reiki affects on so-called non-living things, for example, water... though, it would be a deep question on the notes that what spirituality it triggers in non-living things ?
Colin wrote:
Just because Usui never said you could use CKR in other ways doesn't mean you are not able to
the question is not that we are not 'able' to use CKR for other uses, the question is that are we warranted to use CKR that way
? (this comment may appear to be a little esoteric, and/or rooted in japanese traditions maybe)**
to me the question is as 'hot' as is the question of 'need of permission for reiki'
Colin wrote:
However, I would say that when you use the Reiki symbols for purposes other than those the Great Teachers taught then you are no longer practicing Usui Reiki Ryoho in that moment - even though you may be using Reiki.
thats a golden words phrase Colin
i m so happy hearing my sentimetns out of your mouth
take care
thanks for this nourishing response
salman
**post script : we have heard that CKR had its existence in japanese culture long before Usui empowered it for Usui Reiki
my point is that when we use CKR for non-reiki uses, are we invoking CKR handed down to us by Usui Sensei through his lineage, or we are invoking the CKR prevalent in the Japanese culture in pre-Usui period ? (this later thought is bit nonsense
since how we can use a thing whcih we were not initiated with)
Last edited by Milarepa on Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:03 am; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : fixing quote)
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