Scientific evidence on the most Powerful Forms of Reiki.

DM, if you put your puncutation in italics, as opposed to capitals, it won't come across as you're SHOUTING online, hehe.

Bridget's also our only moderator on atm, and does much more than lesuirely have chat's with any one person. Being a Moderator, and an excellant one at that, she get's involved with as many topics as possible to help further stimulate activity on the board. This means she's actually interacting with many more topics than any other person in the entire forum at present (myself included). I just wanted to share thar she has a huge voluntary workload on here, and doesn't have the luxury of focusing on a few topics at once. .

warmest wishes
Wayne

I not only read your words I find your
yelling and clutter of jargon offense
to the reader.

You say your a zen practitioner for 25
years and present yourself as an insect?
Attacking my opinion or any RLL members
comments or opinions is hardly zen like.

You say your mission here on this forum is......

My mission here on the FORUM is to RAISE the CONSCIOUSNESS LEVELS about REIKI to whomever accepts the challenge. I'm not here to JUDGE them, put them down, or insult or "bully" them. If ANYONE believes otherwise, THEN WE ARE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE and they have the choice to TURN IT.

my role on the forum is to keep it a
friendly safe place. Where members
can chat without being put down judged
or bullied no matter which Reiki style
they practice.

You have a choice to share your reiki
experience on this forum in a civil
tone as other members have been doing

Damemantis wrote:



My mission here on the FORUM is to RAISE the CONSCIOUSNESS LEVELS about REIKI to whomever accepts the challenge. I'm not here to JUDGE them, put them down, or insult or "bully" them. If ANYONE believes otherwise, THEN WE ARE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE and they have the choice to TURN IT.

my lovely i am quite happy with my level of consciousness, and I always feel more far more enlightened when i am calm and peaceful, i also find my students can connect much more effectively with their divine spirit and able to absorb any teachings i may be blessed enough to pass on. i am genuinely interested in what you are talking about, i just cant quite hear you. with peace love and light

'raising the level of consciousness' is my obsession too...

Since u are coming with an idea of inventing a 'device' that would work through synchronity of frequencies between key players within a reiki session, u r getting disagreeing notes here...... Everyone here (me included), has not got the relevant / sufficient background about the workability of the idea/project you are working on, so we all are sharing what we instantaneously feel about that....


Secondly, as u have recently joined, we dont know whom we were talking to.... A child says ' i can catch moon', an astronaut says the same... But people give different reactions, since they know backgrounds of both persons/statements.... Maybe, same has happened here....


Hey, i m thinking that if you succeed within your project, you are writing history here.... Wish u all the best

Salman

chi_solas wrote:I not only read your words I find your
yelling and clutter of jargon offense
to the reader.

You say your a zen practitioner for 25
years and present yourself as an insect?
Attacking my opinion or any RLL members
comments or opinions is hardly zen like.

You say your mission here on this forum is......

My mission here on the FORUM is to RAISE the CONSCIOUSNESS LEVELS about REIKI to whomever accepts the challenge. I'm not here to JUDGE them, put them down, or insult or "bully" them. If ANYONE believes otherwise, THEN WE ARE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE and they have the choice to TURN IT.

my role on the forum is to keep it a
friendly safe place. Where members
can chat without being put down judged
or bullied no matter which Reiki style
they practice.

You have a choice to share your reiki
experience on this forum in a civil
tone as other members have been doing

My clutter of jargon is offensive; but when I'm asked to "explain", I'm being "verbose". I'm not Zen-like either since I'm "attacking people's opinions" (as if nobody has "attacked" mine)--I beg to differ on that one. For example: There's another thread that I started where the man who kept posting back literally ripped my face off. Why didn't you notice that one since you seem to be checking and monitoring everywhere? I have been informed by another moderator that all capitals gives the impression I'm shouting. Point taken. Then there are those who can't "hear me"? So what is the point? There's no way I can share anything on this Forum because nobody understands it. We're on drastically different "frequencies". Over and out.
DAMEMANTIS

i'm the forum founder, not a 'moderator', .

If you've got a complaint about someone's conduct in another thread, please speak to either one of our moderators, or one of the admin (including myself). We'll gurantee to look into all complaints professionally, and confidentially. This thread isn't really the appropriate place to air it though. So please feel free to PM me.

warmest wishes
Wayne

DameMantis wrote:

chi_solas wrote:I not only read your words I find your
yelling and clutter of jargon offense
to the reader.

You say your a zen practitioner for 25
years and present yourself as an insect?
Attacking my opinion or any RLL members
comments or opinions is hardly zen like.

You say your mission here on this forum is......

My mission here on the FORUM is to RAISE the CONSCIOUSNESS LEVELS about REIKI to whomever accepts the challenge. I'm not here to JUDGE them, put them down, or insult or "bully" them. If ANYONE believes otherwise, THEN WE ARE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE and they have the choice to TURN IT.

my role on the forum is to keep it a
friendly safe place. Where members
can chat without being put down judged
or bullied no matter which Reiki style
they practice.

You have a choice to share your reiki
experience on this forum in a civil
tone as other members have been doing

My clutter of jargon is offensive; but when I'm asked to "explain", I'm being "verbose". I'm not Zen-like either since I'm "attacking people's opinions" (as if nobody has "attacked" mine)--I beg to differ on that one. For example: There's another thread that I started where the man who kept posting back literally ripped my face off. Why didn't you notice that one since you seem to be checking and monitoring everywhere? I have been informed by another moderator that all capitals gives the impression I'm shouting. Point taken. Then there are those who can't "hear me"? So what is the point? There's no way I can share anything on this Forum because nobody understands it. We're on drastically different "frequencies". Over and out.
DAMEMANTIS

Hi There,

This certainly has been an interesting and informative thread that you`ve spawned. Some of whats been shared by Salman and Colin I find as impressive as just about anything I`ve read at this site. Thank you Colin and Salman, for having the vision to understand, and the vocabulary to explain

Damemantis...
You seem very animated in ideas and verbage, and it`s truly much fun to read. Unfortunately it appears to have been a little tarnished with disagreement. It isn`t a big deal really, it happens occasionally between members. Bridget is very good people Dame...this looks like a misunderstanding to me...nothing more...So can we just all put our party hats back on and share our toys again?










RJ

dear Dame Mantis

I m sad that you had to resign from discussions, and i personally apologise for things getting wrong here without any malice on part of anyone, believe you me...

I can understand that you've felt hurt, and especially when we haven't found ourselves on the same wavlength as yours so as to agree with you.... I know you understand that everyone might not understand what you've been saying....

We have had a lot of disagreements here on this forum already, at times we would be locking horns, frowning, staring, swirling the pendulum of our heads on what others would be saying...etc. Etc. But, we don't feel the need of resigning... And i request you to rejoin, introduce yourselves, and the backstage you ve been coming with.... This will help all of us to figure out where we made mistakes in understanding what you ve been saying.... Let us undo what went apparently bad here....


To let go our family members who are trying to say goodbye, is the last thing this forum members will wish to learn

Come back, we wait !

Love

Salman

hai friends,

i think i need to come here . Today i am confuse to see reiki lounge convert in WWF reiki lounge and our most lovable person in the ring and all world watching such wonderful round.....

So it is my request to all forget whatever happend it is not your fault it is sometype of negativness which came and todo their work and go back which we cannot understand that time but now we understand( what happend it is not nature of lovely soul or reiki people) So forget all thing let start again for reiki and for new generation and for your soul........

So i request all lovable soul come back not feel alone we are with you and all is one and let start again as family.

any thing hurt anybody i say sorry ... But mission of reiki continue until we have life and this truely regards for reiki..... ( reiki mission will stronger as much as reiki people togather)


Thanks, Love and regards.
vj

Folks this thread has not been closed
please continue to share your opinions,
make comments on the original question
that DameMantis posed.

Is there any scientific evidence out there COMPARING the different forms of REIKI?
Ancient Egyptian/ Seichem/ Shambala/ Karuna/ Kundalini/ Violet Flame/ Usui.

Loving kindness to all ~ Bridget

Edit as the post has got nothing to do with topic subject.

Michael, the topic is about a certain subject, and not about any members. Chi Solas is a moderator carrying our her duties, and will use her right as a staff member to do as she see's fit.

It's unfortunate that your first post is such a one that carries on things in a potentially inflamatory way. I'm deleting the majority of your post, and i'm not permitting you to change the topic into one about my moderator.

The staff will also be looking extra carefully at any 'new' members in the future.

If you want to continue to be a part of this forum, please talk about Reiki and not people. If you have a complaint, then make it. I'll instantly edit any posts that seem to suspiciously stri up trouble & innuendo. In line with our terms of service, which you signed up to.

Wayne

I have no clue what all these different styles are all about. The very little I know comes from my daughter. That's why I joined here and on others, too. To get more information. About your rules, looks like different ones apply for different people, and that's fine because it's your forum, after all.

It's your right to investigate any "new member", it's your forum. I was just making a point that I found.....no comment. Perhaps like reiki styles, one has to find the right forum to be accepted into.

Mike the MathMan.

MathMan wrote:I have no clue what all these different styles are all about. The very little I know comes from my daughter. That's why I joined here and on others, too. To get more information. About your rules, looks like different ones apply for different people, and that's fine because it's your forum, after all.

It's your right to investigate any "new member", it's your forum. I was just making a point that I found.....no comment. Perhaps like reiki styles, one has to find the right forum to be accepted into.

Mike the MathMan.

Hi,

You came to a good place to find info on Reiki, that`s a fact. If you take time to read through past conversations you will find a wealth of information regarding history, practice, teaching, healing and spiritual aspects and experiences. Reiki has been a mysterious and enriching experience...and that`s a conservative impression of how i feel about this practice of enlightenment and healing.

As far as styles are concerned, just like ice cream, everyone has a favorite, including me. Yet, effectiveness has alot to do with the individual practicing Reiki, and more to the point , the personal spiritual practices and level of dedication to the concepts and precepts. I also believe that individual traits play a role as well...In other words, attunements do not make us all equal in our abilities, but they do give us the opportunity to become much more than we were.


Ya know, it would seem that almost everywhere that people exchange ideas, some where, at sometime, some kind, of conflict will arise. It occurs at this site as well...but rarely. When it does occur, it`s always noticed and promptly dealt with...
The people who represent this forum are good people, but we are not perfect people. We learn as we go, and we make mistakes from time to time, even here on the forum for the entire world to see...


People at this site are knowledgeable and friendly. Questions are welcomed and encouraged.

Hope to see you around...


RJ

Well okay, thanks. But if all these reiki styles are like flavors of ice cream, and everybody is different, then it looks as if this forum serves the purposes of exchanging individual, and subjective experiences. Having been in "school for so long", I'm having difficulty not seeing anything that's not on paper or on the screen or some other tangible surface. What I'm saying is that I don't know what contribution I can make here. I don't think that anybody would appreciate listening to a "math lecture".

Perhaps I should just explore around and see if something peaks my interest.

MathMan Mike

dear Mike

Your joining in is a contribution... All the things might not need to be reduced in writing...many things are retained no where but in hearts, in feelings, and in general public note... Merited to say that even the constitution of a big Kingdom, the Great Britain, is also ''un-written'' and is contained in their norms and conventions over centuries

Individual and 'subjective' experiences are of as much value as are the concepts about which there is sorta consensus prevailing out there.... You are very cordially invited to enrich us with your thoughts, no matter how much 'math-like' they would appear to you.....

For me, the simplist definitions of math is :

''God-made rules expressed in man-made equations''

(so you are already so innately close to Universe at large )


warm welcome buddy!


Salman

Thank you Buddy. I'm correcting some assignments and am starting to see too many numbers flashing in my eyes. Must be my bedtime

Talk to you soon some other time. Good night!
Math is not all there is.

Lambs-Wool wrote:dear Mike

Your joining in is a contribution... All the things might not need to be reduced in writing...many things are retained no where but in hearts, in feelings, and in general public note... Merited to say that even the constitution of a big Kingdom, the Great Britain, is also ''un-written'' and is contained in their norms and conventions over centuries

Individual and 'subjective' experiences are of as much value as are the concepts about which there is sorta consensus prevailing out there.... You are very cordially invited to enrich us with your thoughts, no matter how much 'math-like' they would appear to you.....

For me, the simplist definitions of math is :

''God-made rules expressed in man-made equations''

(so you are already so innately close to Universe at large )


warm welcome buddy!


Salman

Salman I love math it was my favorite subject.

this thread started out seeking to find vibrational
differences in Reiki styles

It seems like we're back on track to discuss the issues
let's stay on topic.

hi Bridget

The term 'vibrational' just caught my sigh! Why we have to assume that reiki is 'vibrational' if we are to believe it exists

Salman

Good point salman.
A tuning fork is vibrational

Higher energy vibration is a term used
when attuning a student to different Reiki
levels. I do prefer to use ULFE.

Vibrational,channeling frequencies,not
quite the descriptive words I want to
use when working with ULFE that flows
differently depending on the clients needs.

MathMan wrote:Well okay, thanks. But if all these reiki styles are like flavors of ice cream, and everybody is different, then it looks as if this forum serves the purposes of exchanging individual, and subjective experiences. Having been in "school for so long", I'm having difficulty not seeing anything that's not on paper or on the screen or some other tangible surface. What I'm saying is that I don't know what contribution I can make here. I don't think that anybody would appreciate listening to a "math lecture".

Perhaps I should just explore around and see if something peaks my interest.

MathMan Mike

Hi,

Well my friend...Lets consider this perspective... Reiki is not much for being defined in "1`s and 0`s" statements like..."I know this is true cause I can prove it with logic"...take a back seat to... "I experienced this in this manner so it`s real to me."
In Reiki common experiences occur all the time giving more weight to a phenomenon which eludes tangibility at times, unless of course you are the one experiencing the energies of Reiki. I have felt Reiki in a very tangible manner many times.

My experiences with reiki have proven to me without a doubt that much of what we think we know about the Universe, and the human mind for that matter, needs to be looked at. I used to believe in the laws of physics that I was taught in high school. With that said, I still believe what i was taught, it`s just that what I once interpreted as a "law", now appears more like a "guideline".
Man gives his brain a little too much credit sometimes. limittions in perception, mean we have a limited view of the Universe in which we live.
Math has been the tool of choice to unlock what we do know about our surroundings. Where would we be without math or Quantum Mechanics?

Mike, as far as a contibution, don`t worry about it. Sometimes an innocent, uninformed question can turn into an exchange of ideas that lasts days in this place. it`s nice to have you here. I hope you find something of interest!!

RJ

I just discovered this thread which is ...well...very interesting. Indeed some great ideas and points of view have been exchanged and I can rip all the benefits ..without even saying a word. And I probably should have kept it this way ..but since there seems to have been a some misunderstanding and considering that I am fairly new to this forum as well I though it would be appropriate to say a few of my own “observations”

1.I find everybody here to be very polite and helpful, just as a family.
2.We all share commonn interest in Reiki and yes, sometimes we have passionateexchangee but I find it ratherbeneficiall to all. I am not here to have everybody agree with me. I want to learn something new and when I am proved wrong than that's actually good thing. I have learned something without having to pay! ( I hope Wayne will not see this for this might give him an idea to start charging me every time I am wrong
3.As most of members here I also have some concerns regarding the scientific challenge being proposed here for the simple reason that while we can say that some reiki styles have different form and techniques when it comes to healing effect ..it is so complex ..and ..in most cases very subjective....and finally...Reiki itself doesn't heal in the way the medicine works so not sure what would be measured here.

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check this out folks: http://www.reikilearninglounge.com/scientific-research-f27/the-science-of-reiki-t1057.htm#11485

hai all

I don't knew why people very concern about scientific proof of reiki not even this site lot of many other site even reiki is far away and still today science doesn't have such equipment which measured the reiki power and whatever equipment is there which is measure starting stage of reiki energy.

The best evidence which we can reconised by our own efforts and practise beacause god have given such wonderful body and soul who can measure all reiki power more than this only thing we required to understand it.

So not see science evidence see own evidence it is happening every breath only thing we need to reconised.....

When chi-solar put solar ULFA people like it very much even i also but when i saw my own experience it is more powerfull than that experienced. Science is discovering now days all this which has discoverd our ideal people long long long time but problem we more believe on science evidence rather than our ideal people. May be other reason , from born we put the believe modern science only for human being and forget other method or we left other method for miracle which is not right justice.

But we all reconised when Great Mikua Usai bring it in front of us in form of reiki and tell all the world there is another way for treat human without Sid effect....


So for me my own practice is great evidence who give me proof great science presence in different-2 form So we should made our body such equipment which measure all this soul science power and tell us not wait science certificate if we go with science speed in our region than we will be very late .



take care
vj

vj,judging and expectations do
not fit the healing mold of the
Reiki system. Like you I also
am not waiting around for science
to measure the healing power of
of Reiki. Instead I use my common
sense and find I'm more drawn to
ULFE and continue to be in awe at
the outcome of each Reiki session
that I facilitate.

I do understand that there are many
science minded folks who do need
to know and document what it is that
makes the Reiki system work.